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MEMBER ALERT/MEDIA RELEASE

Release Date: November 3, 2009

Contact: Chuck Michel, Legal Counsel (562) 216-4444

NRA Moves to Protect Hunters From
Arizona Lawsuit Threatening Lead Ammunition Ban

Phoenix, Az. - As part of NRA’s continuing efforts to protect hunters from special interest groups seeking to eliminate the use of ammunition containing lead projectiles, attorneys for NRA filed paperwork in the United States District Court in Arizona on October 14, 2009 asking the Court to allow NRA to intervene and join in the lawsuit Center for Biological Diversity v. United States Bureau of Land Management et al (3:09-cv-08011-PCT-PGR). The court could rule on NRA’s intervention request as early as the end of this month.

The lawsuit, filed January 27, 2009 by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD), alleges that the U.S. Bureau of Land Management and the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (BLM, FWS) are illegally mismanaging federal lands in Arizona because those agencies failed to consider the potential impact on local wildlife resulting from authorizing activities like off-road vehicle use and allowing livestock grazing. CBD’s lawsuit also claims that California condors in Arizona are becoming ill or dying as a result of eating lead in scavenged game shot by hunters using lead shot or bullets, and that BLM and FWS are violating the Endangered Species Act by allowing hunters to use of lead shot and bullets while hunting.

NRA has been at the forefront of debunking the so-called “science” behind the theory that lead bullets are responsible for condor illness. NRA most recently worked with experts, researchers, and attorneys in California to defeat proposed state hunting regulations based on the unproven condor/lead bullets link. That success was based in large part on meticulous scientific reports prepared by experts working with NRA that exposed the deficiencies in the science, showing the theoretical link to be rooted in “psuedo-science,” as one California Fish and Game Commissioner described it.

Because of NRA’s previous experience and expertise with this issue in other states, and because there is no guarantee that either BLM or FWS will vigorously challenge the unproven assertions CBD is making about lead-based ammunition, NRA is seeking to intervene in CBD’s lawsuit to protect its members’ interests.

NRA is especially interested in defending against CBD’s lawsuit because California condors were introduced to Arizona based in large part on express promises by FWS, among others, that the reintroduction of condors would not be allowed to impact hunting.

A copy of the Motion to Intervene, CBD’s Opposition, and NRA’s Reply Brief is posted at http://www.calgunlaws.com .

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The larger caliber guys will fair OK with the barnes X-bullet. The varmint guys are gonna have fits. Been there and done that cuz I hunt in the Condor zone in CA.
 

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I'm not sure if this issue has merit of not. Most game shot with lead bullets are pass through. This leaves very little lead in the remains that are left by the hunter.

I have heard and watched numerous places that lead has severe detrimental impacts on these birds. If lead bullets were the real reasoning for the problem at hand I would support a ban on such bullets, but I don't think it is. There has got to be another source. It's far too easy to just blame the hunter.

I'm asking the next question because I don't know the answer. Did non-toxic shot help in anyway with the waterfowl population?
 

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I am not sure "merit" has much to do with it.....same as most laws and regulations of this type. Using the conservation and health approach to their advantage is the wave of the future for those who do not agree with guns or hunting.
 
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