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Yesterday i stopped in to my buddys gun shop and was surprised of what he had. I was able to get some imr 4350 powder and seen he just got 5 ar's in. What was neat his powder was typical 24.95 a pound and a few of the ar's was prices at 795.00. I have a lot of respect for this guy of how he runs his business same rifle at other local shops would be over 1k. Even back in mid Jan. when 223 was no where to be found he was sitting on a large inventory of it from previous months and still sold it at 9.00 a box. I was able to get some other powders and bullets to get me thru the year shooting and hunting. I asked him how long does he for see this crap , he felt at least another year. I feel pretty lucky now im in good shape for reloading supplys for a year.
 

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The bottom is going to fall out on the AR market. Alot of stock is going to free up, and the poor guys that bought at top dollar thinking that they could turnaround and double the money, aint gona happen. Just look at the buy it now option at the auction sites (no bids). Now 22lr is a different story.
 

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the AR market is already collapsing. the fools that paid 2k for a $800 bushmaster got what they deserved.
 

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pumpgun said:
the AR market is already collapsing. the fools that paid 2k for a $800 bushmaster got what they deserved.
BUT if future production or sales were curtailed then they would not be "fools" would they?
 

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If you live in my state and ever think of owning one 20 years from now you better pay 800.00 or 2,800.00 cause after Oct. 1 2013 they can no longer be purchased in state of Md. A Md. resident at this time can not purchase a handgun or Ar out of state, they have to be transfered to a Md. dealer.
 

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Just home3 from Ga. and ammo situation is like here. Guy told me he had no idea when they would see .22lr. They did have a decent supply of primers and loaded shotgun ammo but powder supply was very low. Firearms were scarce too, especially lower priced ones.
 

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I too am seeing more AR style rifles on the shelf in my LGS's. Smith & Wesson M&P pistols too. But not many Glocks.

And why is anyone's guess, but is it me or does there seem to be a shortage of used revolvers lately. Seems like you just don't run into them much any more. Maybe because of the trend towards buying pre-lock smiths has finally caused a market shortage?

Or maybe it's that in combo with the fact that most manufacturers have switched production resources over to pistols?
 

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HOLD OUT MEN...don't buy a single thing...and don't forget to tell them the prices are to high..soon enough they;ll get the message..resist!!!!!!!
 

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And don't forget those LGS who jacked up their prices during this shortage either....
Thats a two sided statement though. You can't blame guys for selling things at what the going rate is, it's basic economics. Why should they throw money out the door? Me personally, I don't like that the Local guy jacked his prices up but I can't blame him. I just refuse to buy those items from him. I will continue to call around to local walmarts that are on my way home from work and ask what they have in. So far it hasn't been that bad. I definitely can't shoot every weekend but if I feel like plinking off a hundred rounds or so in my backyard its not going to kill my supply.

The reason I can't blame them is a buddy of mine just when the shortage hit, bought a complete AR lower from a buddy who runs a small in home gun shop for $200.00 bucks. My friend turned around and traded it for a 4-wheeler the next day. So why shouldn't the gun shop charge what the asking price is because I guarantee you most of the people who are buying low are just re-selling at the higher price anyways. If my friend was going to keep the lower I would have a different opinion but no one I know is doing that. Everyone is trying to cash in while they can.

I just refuse to buy anything at jacked up prices. I'm just doing my part to make this goat fornication end....and if it doesn't then I'll sell the majority of my just for fun firearms from my collection and do more archery.
 

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Whoa, not trying to start anything, I'm just saying from a economic standpoint it makes sense. And if who they sell low to is just going to flip it, why not sell at the current market price and keep the profit for the business? But if everyone stopped patronizing them, then the prices would come down.
 

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What goes around comes around and my hope is that some of the gougers end up haveing to eat a lot of there product . It seems availability is starting to come back on some of the powder and bullets , just in the last week have found W-748 , varget , H-380 and 50 gr V-Max all at very reasonable prices.
 

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My buddy has a nice gunshop and one of a kind actual gunshop. No bows, boots, or hunting gadgets just new, used guns scopes, etc. When the cruch really hit in Jan. he had 5.56 ammo he bought ahead of time and sold for regular price. The shop down the street was almost double. The same with the ars he got in he said his dist. would ask do you want a few taking them not knowing what was being shipped. He sold them for the same mark up for his profit as he did last year. I asked him why he didnt get in to the gouging game. He has a dry personality but very honest at first he wouldnt answer but layter said he never did gouge anything. I own a business myself and understand the need to bank in on any profit but i had great respect for this guy to not jump on that bandwagon. I got that 1 lb of imr 4350 that day for 25.00 the same price as it was in Nov., anywhere else it would of been like gold.
 

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bandit1978 said:
Would it be wrong to post your buddy's shop name? If he is treating floks fair, he should get some recognition.
Why not, since he is a regular dealer running a legit business.
Mulligans Gun Shop
Ridgely, W.Va.
304/ 738-3219
Hours Tuesday-friday 11-6
I dont think he is in to shipping though. He is a good friend of mine and i see no reason not to give credit where do. He has new and used guns and one of the most knowigible men of guns, ballistics, etc. i have been around.
 

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Sounds like a good man. But I'll say this, anyone against selling at the going rate, or buying to flip anything in a supposedly still capitalistic country is asking for price controls and supply controls, aka Socialism. This all could have been prevented if people would've stocked up when prices were cheap, rather than waiting to complain that they can't find it at the price they used to pay when an event or events change the markets via supply and demand. I guess you're PO'd that people were making $$ selling houses and then the market crashed and you can now buy them much cheaper?? Where were the complainers when they should've been supporting the little Mom & Pop shops and stocking up BEFORE we have another crisis????!!! I suppose you actually think you don't need to stock up to defend your country should a real crisis ever hit, and that ammo and guns will be available during such an event at your convenience??? Most of the people buying at $2K an AR were thinking there would or might never be any more - thankfully for all of us, they were wrong, this time........ $2K will seem cheap when you're down to trying to make one with a file.
 
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