As the usual threads surface about how good or bad the deer season went concerning actual deer sightings, one thing that simply amazes me...is folks who hunt public ground stating that the guys who kill big buck every year on private ground, do so because its easy. That's may be one of the funniest misconceptions out there. Public or private, the hunters who harvest big bucks every year work hard to get them. A lifetime (40+ years) of hunting PA deer through both the "Glory" years and the present has taught me that mature whitetails are experts at avoiding humans. There are guys on this site that could teach most of us "wisdom in application" if we could spend a day in the woods with them. Lots of hunters read/watch TV/research articles about deer hunting but once in the woods can't seem to put that knowledge into practical application. Find a hunter who consistantly harvests big bucks and maybe be forunate enough to learn something. My observations are that they all have a dedication to working hard at what they love and are patient enough to keep at it. Yep...times have changed but big bucks are still tough no matter where you hunt. BTW, I'm the kind that hunts unposted big woods areas most of the time via boot leather.