...when you finally find a load that shoots good out of your flintlock! I think I found the load my Lyman Deerstalker finally likes! I shot this 50 yard group using 80 grains of Goex 2F in the barrel, 4F in the pan, and 240 grain Hornady PA Conicals. This is a 5 shot group I shot today. The shot to the right must have been me flinching or something because the 4 other shots are all touching each other. Man that feels good!