I'm an archery hunter first, but my camp rifle hunts as well. I'm having a hard time understanding the hunters not being in the woods moving the deer. My group of guys usually goes 50% on bucks during archery season without guys walking all over the place and pushing them. How come the rifle side of hunters complain about not enough hunters pushing deer? Wouldn't ya really want the deer not crazy pressured? By the way you really don't need a whole lotta pressure to move deer, one or two guys can really disrupt a 100 acre area.