Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk
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I posted about this guy in 2013 on here when he bought the Pa governors tag when he was already a convicted poacher in Washington state for using a helicopter to poach a elk there and one of the members on here was one of his guides in Pa and was kissing this guys butt saying how much of a great guy he is and all that. Guess he is just a rich criminal that the rocky mountain elk foundation should get away from because he sure isn't helping the image of hunters.
A convicted poacher sure can buy a license as long as he is not under license revocation. In his last conviction he made a plea deal and his hunting privileges were not revoked. And if he drags this recent arrest out in court and delays the possible conviction he will be able to hunt elk here on his high dollar tag.
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That is a fact. Using the word hunter in the title of this thread is an injustice to every legit hunter out there.bohunr said:
What a shame that money makes people and agencies forget their values. And there a posters on this very site who have defended this guy buying the tag again this year.
He plead to a non game violation and the game violation was dropped after serious arm twisting is what I remember from the articles that appeared after that case wrapped up. He was trespassed from the National Forests for a couple years and paid a $5K fine.
IMHO it is going to take a conviction that carries IWVC to get this behavior stopped. That is what he was basically fighting in the Blue Mountain case.
IMHO it is going to take a conviction that carries IWVC to get this behavior stopped. That is what he was basically fighting in the Blue Mountain case.
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he can do as he pleases because he has the money and the attorneys to skip across any major charges that may be filed against him.
plea deal=lesser charge=$$$ fine payable to the game agency in whatever State = he gets to do it all over again in whatever state he chooses.
maybe he will poach his PA elk, Maybe not, maybe he learned. maybe all these things were just a misunderstanding?
plea deal=lesser charge=$$$ fine payable to the game agency in whatever State = he gets to do it all over again in whatever state he chooses.
maybe he will poach his PA elk, Maybe not, maybe he learned. maybe all these things were just a misunderstanding?
Looks like ole Todd loves the challenge of the "tough hunts" like his 2013 Pa hunt. I remember hearing what a great guy he was to have around camp. He even helped cut up his Pa trophy, what a guy! Let someone else locate antlers by any means nessecery. Here's the cash just let me shoot em. I also remember the PGC never mentioned a word about Todds 400 inch elk harvest. Wonder why?
There is no argument for this human trash, to call him a hunter or a sportsman is preposterous. His money is not enough to satisfy his ego, he is more than willing to break the law for bigger elk antlers than yours...... I'd say he has some serious self esteem issues.
I can't wait for the story about his Pa hunt again this year.........I have to wonder...what Pa outfitter will guide this clown in 2016?
There is no argument for this human trash, to call him a hunter or a sportsman is preposterous. His money is not enough to satisfy his ego, he is more than willing to break the law for bigger elk antlers than yours...... I'd say he has some serious self esteem issues.
I can't wait for the story about his Pa hunt again this year.........I have to wonder...what Pa outfitter will guide this clown in 2016?
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The Governor's Tag winner can hunt in any management unit except the closed one around Benezette in PA. Perhaps he'll try to shoot a bull up at the Visitor Center in front of hoards of people and somehow get away with it. I mean, all he has to do is set someone up to take the fall for him and perhaps compensate them later. I feel confident that this guy is not naive to what he has been doing. The question is who is finally going to stand up to it?
The whole thing is nothing but a spectacle and a joke as far
as fair chase is concerned. Very few Pa elk are shot as a
result of even the most vauge description of fair chase.
Wether its many thousands or just a few hundred dollars is of little consequence as it pertains to the manner in which these animals are taken.
The fact is the PGC turns their backs on game law infringments in order for the whole thing to be successful. There are lots of Bullwinkles that get (semi) legaly shot.
Including several on our property. Moving the check station
to Bennezete is just another example of follow the money.
as fair chase is concerned. Very few Pa elk are shot as a
result of even the most vauge description of fair chase.
Wether its many thousands or just a few hundred dollars is of little consequence as it pertains to the manner in which these animals are taken.
The fact is the PGC turns their backs on game law infringments in order for the whole thing to be successful. There are lots of Bullwinkles that get (semi) legaly shot.
Including several on our property. Moving the check station
to Bennezete is just another example of follow the money.
We all know that money talks and [censored] walks....If your super rich and you donate,,,they will turn there heads to have new toys and $$ for that as its only an... elk..or trophy Buck or what ever...dont want to make so and so mad...or go against his lawyers and waste our time beating up our Sugar Daddy for a small issue..
I do not know the unit though Quehanna rings a bell. I believe the whole hunt lasted forty minutes and I think they were touting a 400 inch trophy. ECO handled his hunt and posted the whole story on this site. Thats when we found he was ah...perhaps less than desirable as a client? I haven't looked for the old post but it may still be here. Created quite a firestorm on this site. I think everything was legal during his first Pa hunt.bohunr said:
This will get you back to the 2013 hunt and discussion. No one can defend this joker any longer.
http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3125250&page=1
http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3125250&page=1
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