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My daughter is home from college. This morning I grabbed her Laptop that I bought her. I paid for. ME! And tried to go to HPA. Unfortunately she was logged in thru her college ID. I got this. (See pic)
 

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Some colleges, gov servers etc block anything related to or having firearms info. Likely was thrown under "other category" by default..
 

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I'm not real techy. Maybe someone can explain this.

What does logged on through the university even mean?

She's using the computer at home, so is getting service through your internet provider, which for most people is either the cable company or phone company.

So how and why is the university involved when using the computer at home?
 

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Just another example of the people who are getting paid by us, to educate our children are teaching them liberalism and forcing our children into,"their" safe place. I would take that computer to a computer shop and have unblocked what you want unblocked. You purchased it, your call what you want your daughter to read, not the call of some pin head academic!
 

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I'm not real techy. Maybe someone can explain this.

What does logged on through the university even mean?

She's using the computer at home, so is getting service through your internet provider, which for most people is either the cable company or phone company.

So how and why is the university involved when using the computer at home?
The university likely has a firewall filter loaded on her computer which filters sites they have earmarked to block when logging-in with student ID which gets into University class scheduling, grades, course pages etc etc. This technology has been in existence for many years.
 

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The university likely has a firewall filter loaded on her computer which filters sites they have earmarked to block when logging-in with student ID. This technology has been in existence for many years.

I think you've got it.
 

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The university likely has a firewall filter loaded on her computer which filters sites they have earmarked to block when logging-in with student ID which gets into University class scheduling, grades, course pages etc etc. This technology has been in existence for many years.
Thanks for the explanation.

Those with college age kids, tell them to change their major to computer security.

I'm sure there will be plenty of jobs in that field for a long time to come.

Unless the computer security war is lost altogether and people go back to paper and ink documents in a locked filing cabinet.
 

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Thanks for the explanation.

Those with college age kids, tell them to change their major to computer security.

I'm sure there will be plenty of jobs in that field for a long time to come.

Unless the computer security war is lost altogether and people go back to paper and ink documents in a locked filing cabinet.
Cyber Security is the current terminology, and yes, it IS the field to get into these days.
 

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I'm not real techy. Maybe someone can explain this.

What does logged on through the university even mean?

She's using the computer at home, so is getting service through your internet provider, which for most people is either the cable company or phone company.

So how and why is the university involved when using the computer at home?

Completely customary for institutions of academia, and mid to larger corporations, to block web URL's. It mostly has to do with keeping their company or institution secure from cyber attacks, which can take a company/institution to it's knees. Some of it also has to do with keeping employees/students off of questionable sites.... ie porn sites.


The firewall comment is correct. Once you pass through, and are on the protected site, you play by their rules. Without cyber security, websites are completely vulnerable to attacks.
 

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Have the same issue if I use my work supplied laptop or my desk comp, can't log or view into Cabelas, or many news stories involving violance, sex or weapons. Problem is it also keeps me from accessing some sites and information I need for work. I have sent messages to the IT department and they blame it on Cisco, their internet software and security vendor. Also a lot of things get put into quarantined folders by Microsoft program and I need to get them to exclude on a individual basis. It is a PIA but it is their computer and protocols so it's no big deal.
When I'm off-site or even in my office I just use my phone as a hotspot and much of the blocking is avoided.

Can tell you when my one daughter was at Millersville using the universities internet most students computers ended up with viruses almost monthly.
 

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Have the same issue if I use my work supplied laptop or my desk comp, can't log or view into Cabelas, or many news stories involving violance, sex or weapons. Problem is it also keeps me from accessing some sites and information I need for work. I have sent messages to the IT department and they blame it on Cisco, their internet software and security vendor. Also a lot of things get put into quarantined folders by Microsoft program and I need to get them to exclude on a individual basis. It is a PIA but it is their computer and protocols so it's no big deal.
When I'm off-site or even in my office I just use my phone as a hotspot and much of the blocking is avoided.

Can tell you when my one daughter was at Millersville using the universities internet most students computers ended up with viruses almost monthly.
I have the same thing with my work supplied computer, which I use only at work, on their network. Some websites are blocked, and with many others you get warnings. This doesn't surprise me.

What surprises me is that the university is loading security software on people's PERSONAL devices.

Do they require that this security software be loaded on ALL devices used to access their network?

The students and staff are probably using a large number and variety of desktops, laptops, Ipads, and smart phones.

I would have thought that the university's security software would be done at the system level, loaded on their servers. And that they would not have to require that ever single device using their system have security software loaded on it.

It seems very impractical for the university to load security software on all those personal devices, and to continually keep it updated.
 

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I wonder if they (universities in general) would consider putting the same filters on professors who use their position to fill the heads of students with liberal political propaganda?

Sounds like a clear violation of First Amendment rights as well as an education institution not having faith in the intelligence of their students to make up their own minds about any issue or informational platform (HPA).
 

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I wonder if they (universities in general) would consider putting the same filters on professors who use their position to fill the heads of students with liberal political propaganda?

Sounds like a clear violation of First Amendment rights as well as an education institution not having faith in the intelligence of their students to make up their own minds about any issue or informational platform (HPA).
Good grief.... Violation of First Amendment!! Profs are under the same firewall filters/protections. It prevents intrusions into kids grades and personal info such as class schedules etc etc. Lurkers would love to know personal info such as lil Susies night class schedule, dorm address, dorm security info etc etc. Things such as this are there for a good purpose which I was glad for as my 2 girls went through college.
 

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I also find that many of those free apps and programs people are in a hurry to download always have crap linked in. Nobody reads it, just clicks the little box accepts the terms and conditions and on to your computer or tablet it goes.
This might be what happened to your daughters computer, she had to agree to terms to use university internet and it loaded, giving them backdoor permission to block what they felt is subversive material.
I know my wife did it on her laptop and it loaded in McAfee antivirus, and we already were running Norton and they would jam her computer from loading for hours battling each other. Finely I saw what was going on and uninstalled McAfee.
 
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when the college installed that stuff on her personal computer i would also say its a safe bet that they installed spyware like a key logger so they can see what she is doing and where she is going on the net. also be aware if she has a built in camera on her laptop it can be opened remotely with out her knowing its on. put some black electrical tape over that camera.


i would also take it to a computer guru and have them check it for spyware that may have been installed without her knowledge.
 

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I'm not real techy. Maybe someone can explain this.

What does logged on through the university even mean?

She's using the computer at home, so is getting service through your internet provider, which for most people is either the cable company or phone company.

So how and why is the university involved when using the computer at home?
Because she was logged in with her college id, that tells me she really was connected to the university's virtual private network (VPN). That means she just uses the home network to connect to the university network. Once connected to the university network everything is the same as if she were sitting at the university which means you are getting pushed their policies/restrictions also.
 

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I have the same thing with my work supplied computer, which I use only at work, on their network. Some websites are blocked, and with many others you get warnings. This doesn't surprise me.

What surprises me is that the university is loading security software on people's PERSONAL devices.

Do they require that this security software be loaded on ALL devices used to access their network?

The students and staff are probably using a large number and variety of desktops, laptops, Ipads, and smart phones.

I would have thought that the university's security software would be done at the system level, loaded on their servers. And that they would not have to require that ever single device using their system have security software loaded on it.

It seems very impractical for the university to load security software on all those personal devices, and to continually keep it updated.
Actually this can all be done without the university installing any software on the personal device. Once you connect to their VPN service, they can force all of your network communications through their proxies at the university which takes care of all of this from their end without having to do anything from all the devices. The proxy or firewall is not normally put on students equipment.
 
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