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Ok i have a question for you guys who run yotes with your hounds..how do they run when the dogs are on em?..i ask because the last two times i have bin to my favorite farm to hunt i end up on an hour or so long chase...I'm all most positive its not a deer cause ill cut them lose with deer in the field an the dogs will run right past them...but anyway when they are on these chases(i don't have a garmin) but is sounds like what they are running will be going flat out then stop..i can tell because my female runs with a squal mouth an when what ever it is stops switches over to a bay.. by then my male will have caught up with it an he will start to bay then all heck breaks lose an then the Chase is back on... the way it ends is me tryin to get ahead of the dogs an cut them off an tryin to call them off it usually takes two times of me doin that to be able to call them off
..so i would like to hear your guys thoughts on this...an also if it is a yote is it turning on the one dog an once the other catches up an puts sum more pressure on it is this why it would start to run again?
 

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because they end up all most a mile away towards busy roads or i would just let them run whatever it is till its over....
 

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Most chases will go on for hours if you allow them. Most hounds aren't fast enough to catch a yote and most yotes don't stop and face off a dog, especially with no snow to slow them down and wear them out. Still, it could be a yote. Wait for a skiff of snow, take them to the same place early one morning and see if it happens again - then check for tracks.
 

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thanks for the feedback [email protected] never thought of that....supposedly there was one seen not to far from the farm I was hunting..
@Cas,good idea I'm definitely gonna do that..i hope to get sum snow soon because i would like start my female on fox this year!...could it possibly be a fox?
 

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My guess is a cat or maybe bear...i know bears will run hard...and they like to stop and play with the dogs and catch their breath and either beat up the dogs or go again...both will climb and bail the tree...


I had a walker dog burning a yote one nite...it was making a half mile or so circle..after 2 or 3 circles i knew what he was doing and what he was running...then i saw the yote...poor ole fat dog was a half mile behind lol...i went and got.him caught....that dog was goofy....some nites we'd cut him loose and he wouldnt go hunting...then i could smell the coyote...other nites he would run them (rare but he ran a few in his day)...funny part is he was attacked by yotes 3 times! Figure he would learned his lesson..one time was pretty bad..vet had to sew him back together...

How many dogs you running? 2 it sounds like?? Dont rule out a bear...when we ran in NC i thought the guy was nuts turning out 1 dog on a track and 2 on another...but the 2 dogs ended up treed under a sow and 2 cubs pretty quick..bayed or treed hard a few times...when we went into the last tree i watched the sow bail...and boy the chase was ON...we had another truck gather then up on the next road..
 

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mauser..ya im runnin 2 an it would be pretty cool going to the tree an seein a bear!!..i couldn't punish the dogs for that one...I'm deffinetly gonna wait till it snows an look for tracks i really hope it ends up bein a cat...i guess that kinda explains why when i called them off it the first time i grabbed my female she was bloody an had a nice scratch on her face...an my male had a nice scratch right above his eye! well what ever it us i will find out soon enough...!
 

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I really suggest you ask for a Garmin Astro System for X-Mas.
They make a world of difference. I hunt with CasB and he can attest to it. We've had coyote circle in one area then pull out and circle in another miles away. Then you'll get others that don't circle at all but just make a bee line to God Knows Where.
Red fox can pull out of an area and run elsewhere as well. Greys typically run almost like a cottontail.
Back when I was younger my dad would always leave an old blanket out where we had our trucked parked. If the hounds pulled out and we couldn't locate them typically they would be laying on the blanket the next day.
Modern electronics have definitely changed that. Not to mention you can attempt to head off your hounds if they are running toward a well traveled roadway. No critter is worth losing a hound to getting hit by a car.
When a yote gets tired he will bayup. We've had chases that went for well over eight hours. I don't know if your hounds are fighters or not. Some dogs will fight others turn tail. Depends how many hounds you are running as well.
Snow will tell what's going on.
 

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beagler, i was always told to take your coat off and leave it for the dog...say they will smell you and lay on it waitin...ive never had to do it..but when i was down south my buddy did it..had a lone running walker get off on her own in a big block and the sun was setting..took his coat off where we dumped her out and said he'd be back for her tomorrow...


scratches could definitely be a bear..they'll sit right on their butt and swat at the dogs till you get in there or they feel like goin again..depends a lot on how the dogs act as well as beagler said..some dogs got more grit than others..funny watchin a 50lb plott dog taking on a big bear..

hard to say..ive had a walker get into a yote and he came back with some scratches..


ive been lucky thus far with my current pup..he hasnt chased or treed anything that doesnt have rings on its tail yet...knock on wood...better stay that way!

i need to get back down south with them deer and bear dogs though...the day i went deer hunting was slow..but running the bear hounds was high paced adrenaline pumping hound dog music just awesome..the guy that took me was in his 70s..i dont know how he did it...that ole timer could DRIVE too...he had me white knuckled as we were in the truck...(all on his leased land..) we were alone running his dogs pre-kill season and had to keep up so we didnt loose dogs..it was intense..i need to go back during the bear season..
 

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I would also recommend that you should purchase a garmin. It is a nice tool to have for helping to locate and head the hounds off and it could also help to save them from getting hit by a car. Every coyote runs different. Some will straight line and blow out of the country trying to get as much distance on the hounds as it can. Others will circle and stay right in front of the hounds. Some may even stop and fight, thats when it is good to have more than one hound. A bayed up coyote could ruin a young hound if it is in by itself. We always say that "the coyote dictates the pace of the chase". Sproul
 

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Our group of hound hunters have only a few rules for anyone who tags along with us and one of them is that you have an Astro 220 Garmin hanging from your neck with all the dogs codes entered into it. Some of the runs that we have can carry on for hours and cover amazing distances. We also have at least one guy in a 4x4 truck out around the hunt keeping track of the dogs also in case they head towards any roads..we've been fortunate to have never had a dog hit with a car over the last five years. We've never really had many that made a small circle, most seem to travel a long ways that sometimes even has me amazed at how far they will travel, some of the numbers that show up on the dogs information show many runs well over 5 to 10 miles. Without the garmins I don't think you could hunt coyotes, you'd loose dogs all the time and there's too much time and effort training them to do that for long.
 
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