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The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/.../#ixzz2IACDxzED
 

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Other than being <span style="font-style: italic">SUSPICIOUS</span> of 4, 7, 15... I don't really have an issue with any of these at "face value".


4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Who decides the criteria... good in principle, but will it be exploited to further an agenda?</span>

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
<span style="color: #FF0000">This is all well and good as long as it doesn't take the form of a propaganda campaign to further an agenda... seems doubtful it won't.
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15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Not liking this at all. Seems like a foundation for more "reasonable restrictions"</span>
 

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The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Already law. Though he can directly order compliance via his cabinet members and those he appoints to head these departments and agencies. </span>

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Address legal barriers??? Unless he is directing his cabinet members and those he appoints to head these departments and agencies to offer proposed legislation - this needs congressional action. </span>


3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Federal law mandates providing the information.


The NRA is on record as recent as this week for these laws to be enforced requiring compliance and reporting.</span>

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Those straw purchasers and the Mexican drug cartels should have been first on the list for the AG. The crack that seems to have been greased is the AG's lack of accountability and legal oversight to stop illegal sales and trafficking.</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Worse, he protected the practice and those guilty of doing it</span>.



5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Normal - within the administrations discretion to propose law. </span>


6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Hmmm - unlike the AG (Holder) and the gang at ATF... gun dealers have been doing buyer checks for years. it is the agency and the legal oversight that failed on this one. </span>


7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

<span style="font-weight: bold"> There are a ton of them out there now. The NRA offers several for all purposes. local and state organizations also offer them.


nothing but a feel good PR sort of proposal.</span>



8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

<span style="font-weight: bold">In a longer version of this - they also mentioned gun safety technology. That is code for personal ID chips - finger print technology to prevent unauthorized firing by others. Would also include the micro stamping of bullet cases. </span>


9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

<span style="font-weight: bold">ATF and others do not have the computerized records to do this. To do so would require millions to set up a system to search a to be created EXTENSIVE DATA BASE of gun records - buyers and sellers. </span>


10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.


<span style="font-weight: bold">hmmmmm another record intensive proposal... </span>



11. Nominate an ATF director.




12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.



13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

<span style="font-weight: bold">I am all for prosecuting anyone for a gun crime or use of a gun in commission of a crime...

I am also for retaining the castle doctrine as it exists in PA.

put the crooks at the disadvantage for one - coming and going. </span>



14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Likely requires congressional changes. If not, it will be met with a immediate reduction in funding as happened in the past. </span>



15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.


<span style="font-weight: bold">Micro stamping, finger print and other Bio electronic means of rendering the gun harmless unless the handler is pre authorized. </span>



16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.





17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.



18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

<span style="font-weight: bold"> The other list I read had school counselors as well. Seems like a bait and switch.</span>



19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.




20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.


<span style="font-weight: bold">Crazy... and here we thought the Prez and his gang were smart. This is number 20... they can't count. </span>


21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.


<span style="font-weight: bold">In other words use the mental healt issue to further expand the program.</span>


22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.




23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
 

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IN the end, there was like five things he could do. None of them affect any of us unless they pass through congress.


At best - he can direct his departments and agencies to follow the law or step up enforcement.

Nearly everything else is going to require congressional action and exceeds the bounds of his power.


Oh yeah - loved how they took issue with the mention of his kids being protected by guns and how they shouldn't be used for political battles.... then minutes later - The king uses kids for a ... Political Battle and media eye candy.
 

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NA_Wreckdiver said:
Other than being SUSPICIOUS of 4, 7, 15... I don't really have an issue with any of these at "face value".


4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
Who decides the criteria... good in principle, but will it be exploited to further an agenda?
Does providing guns to the Mexican drug cartel count?
This is a subject that Holder repeatedly claims to lack knowledge.
 

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My issues are with what congress will/won't do.

NOT ok with any form of AWBv2.0

NOT ok with any sort of Magazine capacity ban/restriction.
(it will do NOTHING to change the outcome of a crime)

I'm really OK "in principle" with a background check for everything...

the problem with it is it won't be effective WITHOUT a MANDATORY
REGISTRATION... ( I am NOT ok with ANY REGISTRATION )... because
without registration, there are so many "unregistered to the possessor"
firearms out there, there would be NOWAY to know if you came into
possession of the firearm before the requirement. So in practice it
would only apply to newly purchased and newly produced firearms.
I could live with that (the background check... just don't see it as effective)
 

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is 17 not some sort of an infringement on Doctor-Patient priveledge? I guess it will depend on if it is an actual "threat" or just "thoughts of committing a dangerous act..."
 

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#7....Seems like the NRA, ATA, 4-H, FFA, and many other organizatons are already doing this. Gotta get folks involved!
 

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<span style="font-weight: bold">16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.</span>

They can ask, you don't need to answer. If your concerned not answering will have negative implications... well your NOT under oath.

<span style="font-weight: bold">17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.</span>

Doctors should be immune from lawsuits for information reported in good faith. <span style="font-style: italic">THIS may well have had an impact on Aurora from the information I read</span>. Doctors should be held CRIMINALLY liable for any false or frivolous information reported. Any info reported should have the entire context and specifics of what was said and WHY the doctor felt it needed to be reported. It might also have had an impact on the Army psychologist incident. It may have had an impact on the Giffords incident. It may have had an impact on the Virginia Tech incident. Perhaps even on the Sandy Hook incident.
 

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It says in the brochure that a "national survey of inmates convicted of crimes involving guns, only 12% purchased the guns where a background check should have been ran."

A majority of these crimes i'm sure involved handguns which should have been transferred at an FFL correct? So the seller and buyer of those weapons were breaking the law by not transferring at a FFL. No new measures will all of a sudden make these people transfer at a FFL since they were already breaking the law.
 

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Bluetick said:
The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.
...

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

ATF and others do not have the computerized records to do this. To do so would require millions to set up a system to search a to be created EXTENSIVE DATA BASE of gun records - buyers and sellers.

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ATF already does this for hundreds of thousands of crime guns annually in Martinsburg, WV. Additional databases are not necessary. Obama is simply directing that ALL crime guns seized/confiscated by federal agencies MUST be traced.
 

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My point is - ATF has to do this as a manual task. Go to warehouse, find the box with the documents, open them, sift through until they find it and scan it before it can be used.
 

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Gun experts grade Obama’s proposals

2) Giving federal law enforcement more power to trace guns could also matter a lot. At the moment, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has a limited ability to share its data on where guns actually come from — and it can’t keep computerized records. What’s more, not all federal agencies are required to trace all guns they’ve recovered. One of Obama’s executive orders focuses on requiring these traces.........



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...-and-what-wont/
 

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Statement from NSSF in Response to
Biden Commission Recommendations

All Americans share the goal of wanting to make our communities and children safer by reducing violence in our society, like the tragic incident that occured last month in our community of Newtown, Conn. We are reviewing Vice President Biden's recommendations with an open mind in hopes they will offer real means of achieving our shared goal.

The central issue involved in violence where a firearm is misused is the unauthorized access to the firearm. We believe it is critical to first focus on the unauthorized access to firearms by irresponsible persons and those not legally qualified to possess them.

We support immediate improvements to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) that will bring all appropriate mental health and other records, such as restraining orders, into the NICS system. Fixing NICS must be among the highest priorities in order to help further prevent illegal purchases of firearms from federally licensed retailers.

In order to help prevent unauthorized access to firearms in the home, we have long supported and are initiating an expanded safety campaign to promote the secure and responsible storage of all firearms and ammunition when not in use. We believe the personal responsibility of gun owners, especially if there are children or at-risk individuals in the home, is central to any meaningful discussion of the issues.

The NSSF will continue to lend its expertise to this important national conversation and the accompanying legislative and policy making processes. We do so respecting the various points of views represented in these discussions.

NOTE: The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) is the more than 8,000 member trade association for America's firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industry.
 
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