hearing rumors that the steelers hired todd haley as the next oc....
Haley had Tyler Palko in KC, not Ben Roethlisberger. Slight talent difference there. In Arizona, he had Warner and Fitz. The pass offense had better be very good with those two. This team should be very, very balanced. That will help Ben stay healthy, and probably help the line do the same. Longer time in pass protection invites more o line injuries. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, POUNCEY, ICE THE ANKLE THIS OFFSEASON!!eddie spaghetti said:Haley was an offensive coordinator for two seasons in Arizona. Arizona was near the bottom of the league with 25.1, and 22.6 rushing attempts per game in 07, and 08. but, their passing offense was one of the best in the league in 2008. And that took the Cardinals to the Super Bowl.
As the Head Coach in KC they certainly went with a run first philosophy 2009 - 27.4, 2010 - 33.8, and 2011 - 30.44 attempts per game. But, KC did not score more points than the Steelers in any of the three years Healy was at the helm. I'm just not sure this is the guy. But, only time will tell.
We'll see what happens when/if he comes to Pittsburgh.
Say what you want, but as an offensive coordinator, BA has one more SB win than Haley. So, Haley has something to prove. No doubt the Steeler problem lately was scoring touchdowns. Some of that will be solved if they can put a healthy cohesive offensive line on the field for 16 games next season.steelerfan58 said:One thing in Haley's favor--no pressure. He can't possibly be worse than the last guy. I would hope just about any OC could help us be better than 22nd in points, 14th in rushing, and 10th in passing. Thank god that the defense was 1st in points, pass yards, and total yards, and a still respectable 8th in rushing yards. This team would have been DOA. With Wallace, Brown, Ben, Pouncey and Redman Spinderella, the offense should at the bare minimum be able to hold up its end of the bargain without needing the defense to continually get turnovers. If your offensive game plan involved your defense getting turnovers, or worse, scoring points themselves, you are in deep trouble.
I think they are good enough that they can win with the pass.if the run is taken away, sometimes. I want balance. Not this 3 and out for 3 straight series, then a 70 yard bomb to Wallace, a sack on first down, a 4 yard run, then another sack that leads to a field goal. Control the clock and play physical football. In other words, play like the Steelers are supposed to play, and quit trying to be the Colts and Patriots. Neither of them are winning anything these days. As far as the run--do what Belichik would do, and play the best player, regardless of whether he's a 1st rounder from Illinois or a UDFA from Bowie State. Seemed that Redman was better, behind that exact same line that Mendenhall can't run behind.eddie spaghetti said:"In Arizona, he had Warner and Fitz. The pass offense had better be very good with those two." You don't think the current Steeler offensive weapons are good enough to match up? Not man for man, but as a unit, this group is pretty good.
But, your point is, you gotta play to your strength. In KC Haley ran the ball because that was their strength. In Arizona the strength was the pass. If you could objectively look at the Steeler roster, you would realize this team is currently built for the passing game. Again, a lot of that comes down to the o-line. If Willie Colon comes back, and stays healthy, maybe we'll have a running game.
Ben is better than Warner. Wallace is not nearly as good as Fitz, and in the red zone, comparing any of our current players to Larry Fitzgerald is like comparing a 73 Pinto resting on blocks to a Ferrari. If Ward goes, I am worried that our receivers won't be blocking anymore, and really concerned that none of them will bring that kind of thunder to the task.eddie spaghetti said:"In Arizona, he had Warner and Fitz. The pass offense had better be very good with those two." You don't think the current Steeler offensive weapons are good enough to match up? Not man for man, but as a unit, this group is pretty good.
I think that he will take a big enough cut, that they keep him around, as they should....it's not like he can't play the game anymore ya know.......If Ward goes, I am worried that our receivers won't be blocking anymore, and really concerned that none of them will bring that kind of thunder to the task.
I would argree with this except I am not sure any of us can say the players respect Tomlin a little less then Cowher. It is apples to oranges really. Clearly Tomlin and Cowher had different systems and most importantly different players. Players today are tougher to deal with (i.e. arrests, social media, etc.) and Cowher didn't have to deal with much of that (not that he didn't or couldn't just wasn't as prevelant)steelerfan58 said:Ben won a SB with Wisenhunt doing the same thing. Ben IS NOT THE BOSS!! Should he have input? Yes, but he should not be dictating the entire offensive philosophy. Tomlin never played in the league. Though I do think that the players respect him less than they did Cowher, they do respect him. If I recall, Cowher would go off now and then too. But he seemed to do OK.
Well, as long as he can golf, we're OK.BuckRub00 said:Haleys hiring is called nepotism, he has a lazy work ethic as told by most players that have worked with him, he's a yeller and will not work well with Ben.Most player dont respect coaches that have never played in the league.He is however a decent golfer,and upper st. clair native.