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Does anyone have any experience with Getz barrels in Beaverton, PA and would care to offer an opinion on their quality and accuracy? I hear that Jim Chambers uses them for his guns
 

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Actually Chambers uses Rice, Long Hammock and W E Rayl barrels.
They all come from Buckeye barrels in North Carolina
Getz makes very good barrels as well as the ones listed above.
Personally I like Rice barrels. Never had a problem with them and they shoot straight
 

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I have two Getz barreled guns and both are very accurate. Depending on what you want, might have to wait awhile for a Getz though. Both of mine come through with some sharp edges that ate patches initially. My next gun will probably have a Rice or Rayl barrel just for something different and possibly a smoother bore finish but Getz barrels are of excellent quality and very accurate in my experience.
 

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Don and son John make a very good barrel. Their specialty is swamped and ringed (also called Queen Ann) style barrels. I have two guns with Getz barrels and I have never had any problems. Most of the barrel makers are very good but its great to support a PA small business!

GBJ
 

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Is Long Hammock like the budget barrel of all of these? I see TVM uses them and green mountain.
 

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Don Getz retired and son John is still making barrels. Yes, they are good but try getting one. Son John fills orders from past customers first. Try Rice, just as good and thay stand behind their word when promising a deliverey date. They even keep a small inventory and/or will tell you what dealer ordered the barrel your looking for, giving you a place to start if you don't want to wait.

Buckeye barrels is great to deal with. It's Barbie Garin, Jim Chambers daughter.
 

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I have 2 44" 54cal Rice barrels---I love the quality--however my next barrel will be from Don Getz---they are everything you hear!!
 

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Gunbuilder Brad Emig used a Colerain Barrel when he built my Pa Mountain Rifle. A 38" swamped 6-groove, round bottom cut rifling, .016" deep. Most accurate flinter ive ever owned!!

Another fine PA based barrel maker in Spruce Creek, PA.
 

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Gunbuilder Brad Emig used a Colerain Barrel when he built my Pa Mountain Rifle. A 38" swamped 6-groove, round bottom cut rifling, .016" deep. Most accurate flinter ive ever owned!!

Another fine PA based barrel maker in Spruce Creek, PA.
Loggy, where is Long Hammock barrels rated within the barrel ranks?
 

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Jack, never owned/shot a Long Hammock but always heard that they were a top shelf bbl!! Last i heard they were made down south...i think FL.
 

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There are several (maybe 12 to 18) top notch makers of muzzleloader barrels. Who is the positively best depends on the purpose and use of the barrel. The twist, shape of the rifling, width of the lands/grooves and depth of the grooves is what matters. Some are more for one type of shooting than another. Bench rest barrelss are then again something else all together. The makers mentioned above are all among the best. There are a few lesser known barrel makers who will custom design and cut a barrel for the customer. I understand Bobby Hoyt in Fairfield PA is one of these. Years ago I went to a guy called Hoppy, of H&H barrel works (Now defunct I hear) Hoppy and I actually did some target shooting together in his shop while we discussed what I wanted in a barrel and he came up with a slight variation on the design he was already making and cut the barrel special for me. (the rifling was similar to Pope rifling but adapted some for a muzzleloader, even has a slight choke bore at the muzzle) That was in 1978 and it is still the most accurate barrel I own.

Over the years I have swapped for other barrels and guns with all kinds of rifling. Square bottom narrow grooves, wide bottom grooves, shallow grooves, deep grooves, gain twist, even a gun that had rifling that was deeper at the breech than at the muzzle. Choke bores, etc.

Some barrel makers will tell you that this is what you need. Sometimes it isn't the optimum choice. If you want a classic heirloom grade hunting gun, most of these are good. If you want a specialty muzzleloader barrel for 25 and 50 yard offhand round ball competition, you need something else. And some of those guys don't even have the tooling to make the special barrel.
Offhand competitors want a fast twist, round ball rifling depth, light weight barrel, that they can shoot with 20 or 30 grain charges. These pea shooters can be made with thinner barrel walls due to the minor powder charges. Therefore they are lighter and it isn't as fatigueing to raise and aim the rifle 100 times in an afternoon.

For most folks, a Getz, Rayl, Long Hammock, Colerain are all equal high quality. Unless you are getting into specialty competition shooting like International Muzzleoader competition, they will do just fine for you.

A lousy shooter is still a lousy shooter even with the best equipment. Andd a truely good shooter can still shoot well even if handicapped with lousy equipment.

One of the disadvantages of having the best equipment is that all flyers and lousy shots can only be blamed on the shooter.

If you are thinking of building a gun, or having one made, don't skimp on the lock either, get the best you can afford. In fact, get the best and then have it polished and fine tuned by someone like Brad Emig in Hellam Pa. I have an older Curley North Star smoothbore. Not sure what lock Curley used, but the inside was polished like a mirror. That gun goes off so incredibly fast that you don't even hear the Flint hit the frizzen separate from the gun going off.
 
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