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My poor ole Savage 67 20 gauge pump that is. It was well used when I got it when I was 11 years old, and 24 years and thousands of shots later it is pretty much the same. It's one of those guns that gets used and abused. Typically just wipe it down at the end of the day and put it away till next time. It is my go to shotgun for everything except turkey and coyotes, and I don't hunt either of those much anymore.

Anymay, it is getting hard to pump. Sorta feels like it sticks and sorta rough. If you hit the slide release it pumps smooth. Pull the trigger, and it pumps really hard.

I'm guessing there is a buildup of grime inside the bolt assembly? It has never failed to fire. The most it has ever been truely cleaned was spraying gun scrubber in the action until the black stopped purring out. I have no idea how to take it apart.

It seems to have started this year. I took it to the gamelands the other day, and had two ringnecks come my way. The first one was down, and had to really pull hard on the pump to work the action. I actually had to pull it twice because it never did that before. Luckily I was able to do it fast enough to get the second bird.

I brought it home, and sprayed gun scrubber in the action and into the bolt until the can was empty. I gave it a shot of oil for lube, and it feels the same way.

Any ideas?
 

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thanks for the insite. My problem is now solved.

Wasn't even thinking of it that way. Don't even get the laugh really. Last time I even made reference to something it got me banned for a week.

I just wanted to know my options. I don't even know of a gunsmith in the area. The only one I know of is in Danville, and he don't touch shotguns.

I would love to just sit this one in the corner and buy a new one, but not an option at this time.
 

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Hunt/Fish, you can drop the trigger assembly by punching out the two drift pins on the receiver. Use a brass or plastic drift pin punch. That should allow you to remove the trigger assembly which will allow you to see the action bar as it slides in the receiver with the bolt. I believe that there is only one action bar on your Savage. It 's possible that it's bent but I'd try to clean it first.
 

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Thanks for the advise. There is only one bar.

I was able to get out today for a bit with my daughter. She has been buggin me for about a week now. I normally don't hunt squirrel with a shotgun anymore, but I decided I wanted to try it again.

Same thing. I have to pump it like I hate it. It never used to be that way. It almost feels like it wants to hang up when you first go to pump it.

It's sort of like that old pair of shoes or that older truck you've been driving......Just don't want to give it up. Just may have to break down, and buy a new one. Keep the old one for back up eventhough I have two others.
 

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It's great to get the kids out when you can.
I know the feeling about old guns.
I had a H&R pump shotgun that I bought when I was 14 with grass cutting money. I loaned it to a friend and got it back broken. I took it to several gunsmiths who said that parts weren't available to fix it. The gun sat in my gun cabinet for 30+ years. A few years ago at the Harrisburg Sportsman Show I talked to a rep from Numrich Arms who was able to get me the parts I needed to fix the gun. Although I now have several better shotguns to choose from, that old H&R makes more trips to the field than the more expensive ones.
 

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I jus had that problem on my mossberg 500 I bought used today for deer season. I torew it part and took the guts out of it and cleanded it good now its works very very smooth
 

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If it were a bent action bar would it be hard to pump all the time? If I hit the slide release it's smooth as silk. Pull the trigger, and your left arm better be in shape.

If there is something mechanically wrong with it there sure isn't any shame in it. I'm gunna try to take it apart to see what I can see. Maybe I'll just tell my wife I need a new one
Happy birthday to me!!!!

I can always use my 12 gauge Mossberg 500 or the 1100 auto, but I like the slimness and lightness of the Savage a lot better.
 

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something with setting the firing pin would be my guess. mabey take out the trigger assembly and spray with brake cleaner? then use gun oil and put back togather and try. to many guns get WD40 used on them and they should never have that stuff come near them
 

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The only things that have been used on that gun have been Hoppe's and REM Oil.

Right now my plan of attach is to get a new shotgun, and then take the other one apart to check it out. Got the green light from the other half after I used the analogy of using a big purse to carry your stuff on a night out. It was in reference to using the big 12 gauge to hunt small game. I don't know how but it worked, and I'm going with it. By late season I will have a new 870.

In any case I'm going to see what I can find with the savage. I don't want to give it up. It has accounted for a huge amount of game. Heck, my brother even shot his first buck with it. I got my first ringnecks with it last week.
 

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Does it happen only after you shoot?I have a pump that did that and there was a ring of junk (lead,plastic?) just after the in the barrel that caused that.When the shell was fired and expanded,it hung up on that ring and we could barely get it open.Used a brush and some solvent and removed the build up and haven't had a problem since.That was the culprit in my case,just an idea.
 

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Call the Feed Mill in Punxsutawney and explain your problem to JOHN the gunsmith.
Either John can diagnose the problem over the phone and suggest a solution or you could send it to them and he can take a look at it for you, fix it and send it back to you.
I would imagine that it will cost you $15 each way to ship it.

Truthfully a gun should last a lifetime, I guess it's lifetime is over. I never liked a gun with a single rod to work the action - too much binding going on inside of the gun. Only you can decide if you want to spend $100 to fix a $200 shotgun.
 

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My guess is that the hammer is bent and when you use the lever - you are not cocking the hammer. When you have to push the hammer back in the trigger group - the pump action has a hard time pushing things back in place and that the trigger group is worn out.
 

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PAb0whunt3r said:
Does it happen only after you shoot?
It's the worst after I shoot. Dry fire it, and it simply pumps hard. After I shoot it sometimes doesn't even want to pump. Really have to work it.

I do think a new shotgun that doesn't have a fixed full choke is in order for my birthday tomorrow. I mostly use it to hunt rabbits anymore. Plus I got a new better job to pay for it. YEA!

Thanks for all the replies. It will be repaired. I plan on having my oldest daughter hunt with it by next season. She is ALMOST big enough for it. Seeing that the choke is full I think it's a great shotgun to hunt squirrels. I've shot a countless number of them with it.
 

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BUCKSLAYER15 said:
Happy B-day and glad to hear you're employed again.
Thanks. I've been employed though. Just not great employment. Guess you could call it under employed if you will. Will be nice to get back to normal.
 
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