Game law violations
I wish I could have seen this hearing to help me understand the outcome.The 9mm thing could have been legit with a LTCF.
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I frequently parked in Lebanon county and walked back in a three quarter mile to my hunting spot in Lancaster County.
A person can hunt and shoot in one county and even track the deer to another. When i hunted along the Lebanon Lancaster line, it would have been easy to hit a deer and have it go a few blocks into the other county.
It was up to the PGC to prove the charges it brought. It isn't against the law to drag a harvested deer back across a county line to a vehicle. Sounds like the PGC could prove he had the deer in one county, but couldn't or didn't prove where it was when shot
A person can hunt and shoot in one county and even track the deer to another. When i hunted along the Lebanon Lancaster line, it would have been easy to hit a deer and have it go a few blocks into the other county.
It was up to the PGC to prove the charges it brought. It isn't against the law to drag a harvested deer back across a county line to a vehicle. Sounds like the PGC could prove he had the deer in one county, but couldn't or didn't prove where it was when shot
No, the 9mm could not have been letgitimate, there is no place in PA where you can shoot a deer or other game animal with a semi auto pistol.
You are smart enough to know that they most likely have an agreement to not testify against each other.Correct?Most likely arranged by thier respective lawyers.You are a lawyer so you will find a legal way to not actually answer the specific question.I know it is all about wording.Our justice system is the most corrupt business in the world,beats organized crime orginations.
John the game laws do allow for personal protection.I can see them wiggle out of that one.Legal for game?No but you can carry it or have it in your car properly licensed.My biggie with this case failing is a loaded hunting rifle in a car.That testimony was allowed in the court.
I would think being shot in the groin with a 308 would be enough of a reason to question whether he was coherent....OUCH!After Clark objected, Puhala wasn‘t allowed to use a statement Lang allegedly gave at the hospital because it wasn‘t clear if he was getting pain medicine and didn‘t understand the consequences of talking to the officer.
So are you saying he had to shoot the deer in self defense?Hiamovi said:John the game laws do allow for personal protection.I can see them wiggle out of that one.Legal for game?No but you can carry it or have it in your car properly licensed.My biggie with this case failing is a loaded hunting rifle in a car.That testimony was allowed in the court.
re the 9mm, was the deer shot with it while still alive? I don't recall any law against shooting a dead deer
was the man even charged with using the 9mm and lastly, did the PG prove it's case?
Can't prove guilt of one crime by proving a crime that isn't charged.
was the man even charged with using the 9mm and lastly, did the PG prove it's case?
Can't prove guilt of one crime by proving a crime that isn't charged.
The incident happened 11 months ago, and the charges weren't filed until August.
From what is available on the UJS portal, Neither Lang or Peck was charged with using the 9mm, which would have been a violation of 34 section 2308.
The charge of injuring a human under 2522, should never have been filed, if the incident occurred at a gas station.
Sec. 2522. Shooting at or causing injury to human beings.
(a) General rule.--It is unlawful for any person <span style="font-weight: bold">while hunting or furtaking</span>, through carelessness or negligence, to shoot at, injure or kill any human being through the use of a firearm, bow and arrow or other deadly weapon.
According to the article, they were not hunting or furtaking at the time. That section was so inapplicable that it was a misdemeanor to file such charges under the crime of official oppression.
In fairness to the WCO, it appears that an assistant DA was responsible for prosecuting the case.
From what is available on the UJS portal, Neither Lang or Peck was charged with using the 9mm, which would have been a violation of 34 section 2308.
The charge of injuring a human under 2522, should never have been filed, if the incident occurred at a gas station.
Sec. 2522. Shooting at or causing injury to human beings.
(a) General rule.--It is unlawful for any person <span style="font-weight: bold">while hunting or furtaking</span>, through carelessness or negligence, to shoot at, injure or kill any human being through the use of a firearm, bow and arrow or other deadly weapon.
According to the article, they were not hunting or furtaking at the time. That section was so inapplicable that it was a misdemeanor to file such charges under the crime of official oppression.
In fairness to the WCO, it appears that an assistant DA was responsible for prosecuting the case.
You probably should not have loaded firearms in your vehicle anywhere...gas stations or at hunting locations. Not sure how that did not stick.
I see where he tagged the deer and put Allegheny County on the tag...hence the confusion as he was "really" in Butler county.
I am surprised that local police did not want a piece of this on the guy getting shot.
I guess when they say in the article District Judge they mean District Magistrate...wonder what legal training they really have.
I see where he tagged the deer and put Allegheny County on the tag...hence the confusion as he was "really" in Butler county.
I am surprised that local police did not want a piece of this on the guy getting shot.
I guess when they say in the article District Judge they mean District Magistrate...wonder what legal training they really have.
District Magistrates must pass a six week course, but otherwise are not required to even have a high school diploma.
As for loaded guns in the car, some of those charges against Lang were withdrawn by the state and were not tried.
Actually, the position is now called Magisterial District Judge.mastertracker said:... I guess when they say in the article District Judge they mean District Magistrate...wonder what legal training they really have.
Makes you wonder why anyone would be in law enforcement. Poach a deer, shoot your buddy, then brag how you beat the warden. I'm sure ths was the first time they broke the law too.
what if it has only one round in it no clip on your person and has open end bullets ??John S said:No, the 9mm could not have been letgitimate, there is no place in PA where you can shoot a deer or other game animal with a semi auto pistol.
It doesnt change the fact that its still a semi-automatic....treedaddy said:what if it has only one round in it no clip on your person and has open end bullets ??John S said:No, the 9mm could not have been letgitimate, there is no place in PA where you can shoot a deer or other game animal with a semi auto pistol.
The law as to semi-autos regulates the type of action, regardless of the number of bullets in it. only individuals with very specific disabilities are permitted to use "single Shot" semis for hunting.
But the issue appears to be irrelevant. I don't see on the UJS portal where either individual was charged with violating the law prohibiting semi autos for hunting.
But the issue appears to be irrelevant. I don't see on the UJS portal where either individual was charged with violating the law prohibiting semi autos for hunting.
Close to being correct. The actual law is:only individuals with very specific disabilities are permitted to use "single Shot" semis for hunting
Sec. 2322. Prohibited devices and methods.
(a) General rule.--Except as otherwise provided in this title or commission regulation, no person shall hunt, kill or take or attempt, aid, abet, assist or conspire to hunt, kill or take any big game, except wild turkey, with any of the following devices or methods:
(1) Any device other than a centerfire or muzzle-loading firearm or bow and arrow.
(2) Any automatic or semiautomatic firearm, except that any semiautomatic firearm modified to permit one shell in the chamber and no more than four shells in a magazine may be used by a person who suffered an amputation or lost the total use of one or both hands.(3) Any firearm propelling more than one projectile per discharge.
(4) Any projectile which is not all lead or which is not designed to expand on contact.
(5) When any big game is swimming.
(6) By any other method or device which is not specifically authorized or permitted by this title or commission regulation.
(b) Penalty.--A violation of this section is a summary offense of the fifth degree.
(c) Contraband.--Any big game killed contrary to this section is contraband.
Actually the statement was perfectly correct... in response to treedaddy's inquiry concerning whether it was legal to hunt with a semi auto that had only a single shell in it and no clip.
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