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Frack Nation is on AXS channel tonight? Thoughts? Opinions? Looks to be an industry friendly or sponsored film..... What say you!!!!
 

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I thought it was pretty interesting, nothing I didn't know and I have been preaching this from the outset. Good to see some light shed on the slimy people trying to scam the system. I'm sure the antis will scream a little about industry shill but it won't deter them from continuing to lie.
 

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Frack Nation was not industry sponsored film, as shown from the very beginning. I don;t believe it was pure pro frack, it was basically a fact finding documentary to issues that the director questioned from gas land. It raised some good points about eastern Europe and the delaware river valley.

What this doc needs is to be put out more publicly like gas land so that all that thought was shown in gas land was the truth without every really questioning anything. They will also see how if those items in questioned in gas land were true, then why won;t the director stand up and bring proof. But in our time of screaming liberal media and hypocrites it may be never be heard above the roar of hypocrisy.
 

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It was a very industry friendly film, they debunked a lot of gas land claims but didn't drill down to any issues caused by fracking.... I personally think the jury is still out, the longer it's around and if we have solid unbiased data that it's safe then I'm all for it but if issues arise and they are covered up or buried in deep lawyer doo-doo then we'll all be in deep cow puckey... I grew up in coal country, I've seen what industry does with no over sight and regulation, I'm hoping it doesn't happen here and problems are addressed and saftey concerns dealt with. It will be a great economy booster, tax base and job creator in the future if promises come true.....time will tell.
 

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There are no issues caused by fracing, we have plenty of solid unbiased information. And this is not the coal industry of the 50's and 60's. There is NO industry as heavily regulated as the oil and gas industry in PA.
This film shows the absolute lie that Gasland is and in my time working with PADEP, I saw my share of complainants like those couple of people in Dimock, PA. that lie or react like that when told their wells are not contaminated by the drilling. I suggest everyone watch the film, I plan on buying a few copies for my school, Twp, etc,to watch and show.
I have worked in this industry for 10 yrs in the 70's and 80's,then with DEP for 25 yrs INSPECTING AND REGULATING this industry and now back with industry again and nothing is more frustrating than the absolute lies that are being told trying to stop the drilling of oil and gas wells.
 

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What about methane mitigation into wells and the aqifer? There are cases (ie: Wyalusing) that have faulty well casing causing the creeping of methane to the surface.....to the point the well can be shut down. Whats the cause? Poor quality cement and not letting it dry?.... Many wells have methane in themm already but some don't but do have it after local drilling. Surface spills, leaking retention ponds ,etc. are other issues that need adressing They don't deal directly with the actual drilling but they are part of the process......
 

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I watched the movie on Tuesday night. I thought it provided a good view point. It debunked a lot of what Josh Fox preached as gospel. It also did a fair job showing the benefits of a shale play to a depressed region.

I think they could have put more scientific facts into this movie. Do the pros of domestic energy production outweigh the cons? That is a question we have to ask ourselves and our friends in the middle-east.

And just to clarify, this film was funded by more than 3,000 contributors through a site called KickStarter. Phelim and Ann (the directors) traveled around raising awareness of this film and thus raising money. I do not believe any of the funding was received from the industry.
 

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But as I said either funded by the industry (which we all learned it wasn't) or very industry friendly (which it really was)...... I want un tarnished, uninfluenced, unbought out, solid facts!!!! Yet to see any without an agenda attached to them...........
 

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What about methane mitigation into wells and the aqifer? There are cases (ie: Wyalusing) that have faulty well casing causing the creeping of methane to the surface.....to the point the well can be shut down. Whats the cause? Poor quality cement and not letting it dry?.... Many wells have methane in themm already but some don't but do have it after local drilling. Surface spills, leaking retention ponds ,etc. are other issues that need adressing They don't deal directly with the actual drilling but they are part of the process......
I have said from the first day I posted about this that there may be an isolated case or two where while drilling the upper 300' of a well that a water well might be affected by the drilling of a gas well. These are generally within 1000' or less of the actual drilling and the majority of those affected are by turbidity or iron due to cuttings or air getting into the aquifer. Most of these will clear up on their own but the industry is responsible and will repair or replace the well. Always did. In my 25 years of working for DEP, I can count on one hand the number of wells that were permanently damaged or affected and a new well or supply had to be drilled/replaced.
Methane has been in water wells in PA for as long as I can remember. The amounts fluctuate from day to day and due to weather conditions/ barometric pressures.
I'm not saying that a gas well does not cause issues, I'm saying that most issues are small and are the exception and not the rule.
Spills and leaking ponds are not leaking all over PA and the industry has never been regulated and watched over as it is today.
The industry is drilling responsibly and the technology is being driven and paid for by industry and is continuously improving by the day.
 

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But as I said either funded by the industry (which we all learned it wasn't) or very industry friendly (which it really was)...... I want un tarnished, uninfluenced, unbought out, solid facts!!!! Yet to see any without an agenda attached to them...........

And where do you think anyone could find such a film? If someone was so disinterested and detached to the issue, they would not invest the time and money to produce a film.

Bottom line: everyone has a motive.
 

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OneLongShot said:
But as I said either funded by the industry (which we all learned it wasn't) or very industry friendly (which it really was)...... I want un tarnished, uninfluenced, unbought out, solid facts!!!! Yet to see any without an agenda attached to them...........

And where do you think anyone could find such a film? If someone was so disinterested and detached to the issue, they would not invest the time and money to produce a film.

Bottom line: everyone has a motive.
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1trueamerican has his facts straight.

I want to see this documentary.
 

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FrackNation rocked!! BTW, Mrs. Stack was in the movie protesting against the Carter Clan.
 

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recorded it last night. Haven't got to see it yet,will let you know what I think....
 
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