Hey guys, just purchased my first in-line muzzleloader. A Thompson/Center Triumph. I wanted to get some ideas on differant loads to use for deer. Pellets, powder, sabot weight and brands? Any ideas or tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I understand that 777 powder is easier to clean then some of the other imitation powders.
When I first started with my flintlock I used some of T/C's Cheap Shot sabots. I thought they shot OK without costing an arm and a leg. It is kind of nice to be able to shoot what you plan to hunt with enough to get used to it. (BTW this year I am going round ball all the way and will probably have around a total of 500 balls though my gun for target practice by deer season. Doing that with sabots would cost a fortune. I imaging you inline has the wrong twist for round balls though. )
When I first started with my flintlock I used some of T/C's Cheap Shot sabots. I thought they shot OK without costing an arm and a leg. It is kind of nice to be able to shoot what you plan to hunt with enough to get used to it. (BTW this year I am going round ball all the way and will probably have around a total of 500 balls though my gun for target practice by deer season. Doing that with sabots would cost a fortune. I imaging you inline has the wrong twist for round balls though. )
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keep in mind that pellets and sabots and primers are designed to remove money from YOUR pocket. When I first got into muzzleloading in the 1970's, you could shoot all day and still only spend a dollar or two. Pellets are convenient and like all convenience, has a price. I am a traditional fan and use only Holy Black. However, in your in-line, I'd suggest loose triple 7. A powder measure is cheap. And there are what seems like 100's of various machinations of sabots, concical, and composite bullets for in-lines. Again, all with a price. There are now some molds out there for folks to roll their own.
I assume you will do some target shooting and then go out for deer. Keep in mind that your gun may be built to withstand elephant loads and buffalo loads, you are hunting white tail. You do NOT need a load capable of crushing granite or buffalo skulls. You most likely won't be shooting deer at 400yds. Flatter shooting of a light weight short bullet doesn't necessarily mean more range. Keep your loads in the 70 to 80 grain range, and a bullet about 300 grains and you will still get slapped abit by the recoil and you can kill buffalo if ya need to. (Trple 7 runs about 15% "hotter" than holy black) Back around the 1850's, the British War Dept experts discovered that a longer bullet and less powder extend range better than a short bullet and more powder. This is due to a number of factors including air resistance and flight stability. An 80 grain load of trip 7 with a 300 grain bullet would be similar to the 1870's 45-90 Buffalo cartridge.
I think Loggy has experimented with some of those all lead molded bullets in his in-lines, and may have more insight into them.
I assume you will do some target shooting and then go out for deer. Keep in mind that your gun may be built to withstand elephant loads and buffalo loads, you are hunting white tail. You do NOT need a load capable of crushing granite or buffalo skulls. You most likely won't be shooting deer at 400yds. Flatter shooting of a light weight short bullet doesn't necessarily mean more range. Keep your loads in the 70 to 80 grain range, and a bullet about 300 grains and you will still get slapped abit by the recoil and you can kill buffalo if ya need to. (Trple 7 runs about 15% "hotter" than holy black) Back around the 1850's, the British War Dept experts discovered that a longer bullet and less powder extend range better than a short bullet and more powder. This is due to a number of factors including air resistance and flight stability. An 80 grain load of trip 7 with a 300 grain bullet would be similar to the 1870's 45-90 Buffalo cartridge.
I think Loggy has experimented with some of those all lead molded bullets in his in-lines, and may have more insight into them.
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My Uncle shoots that gun. TC 250 shockwaves, bonded or unbonded (no difference except price), loose 2f 777, 90gr. with Federal Fusion Primers.
That is the load his gun likes. The primers made the biggest difference. The Fusions kept really tight groups as the others did not. He did his own trial with 3 different primers.
Shooting sequence: Shoot, 1 wet patch, 1 dry patch, 1 lube patch and reload. Repeat for each shot.
TC13 for the wet patches, wonderlube for the lube patches.
He loves his and this is what is workin for him. Good Luck!!
That is the load his gun likes. The primers made the biggest difference. The Fusions kept really tight groups as the others did not. He did his own trial with 3 different primers.
Shooting sequence: Shoot, 1 wet patch, 1 dry patch, 1 lube patch and reload. Repeat for each shot.
TC13 for the wet patches, wonderlube for the lube patches.
He loves his and this is what is workin for him. Good Luck!!
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dont bother with the subs! Blackhorn209 is simply the best.
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Read alot of good reviews on that stuff.Will be trying it out this year FG!
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