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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York lawmakers agreed to pass the toughest gun control law in the nation and the first since the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, calling for a stricter assault weapons ban and provisions to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill who make threats.

"This is a scourge on society," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday night, six days after making gun control a centerpiece of his agenda in his State of the State address. The bipartisan effort was fueled by the Newtown tragedy that took the lives of 20 first graders and six educators. "At what point do you say, 'No more innocent loss of life'?"

The measure also calls for restrictions on ammunition and the sale of guns. It is expected to pass Tuesday.

"This is not about taking anyone's rights away," said Sen. Jeffrey Klein, a Bronx Democrat. "It's about a safe society ... today we are setting the mark for the rest of the county to do what's right."

Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two "military rifle" features, such as folding stock, muzzle flash suppressor or bayonet mount. The proposal would reduce that to one feature, including the popular pistol grip. The language specifically targeted the military-style rifle used in the Newtown shootings.

Current owners of those guns will have to register them.

Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family would be subject to a background check through a dealer. New Yorkers also would be barred from buying assault weapons over the Internet, and failing to safely store a weapon could lead to a misdemeanor charge.

Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.

Stores that sell ammunition will have to register with the state, run background checks on buyers of bullets and keep an electronic database of bullet sales.

In another provision, a therapist who believes a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally would be required to report it to a mental health director who would have to notify the state. A patient's gun could be taken from him or her.

The legislation also increases sentences for gun crimes including the shooting of a first responder that Cuomo called the "Webster provision." Last month in the western New York town of Webster, two firefighters were killed after responding to a fire set by the shooter, who eventually killed himself.

The measure passed the Senate 43-18 on the strength of support from Democrats, many of whom previously sponsored bills that were once blocked by Republicans. The Democrat-led Assembly gaveled out before midnight and planned to take the issue up at 10 a.m. Tuesday. It is expected to pass easily.

The governor confirmed the proposal, previously worked out in closed session, also would mandate a police registry of assault weapons, grandfathering in assault weapons already in private hands.

It was agreed upon exactly a month since the Sandy Hook Elementary School tragedy.

"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island.

Cuomo said he wanted quick action to avoid a run on assault weapons and ammunition. He estimates there are already about 1 million assault weapons in New York state.

Republican Sen. Greg Ball called that political opportunism in a rare criticism of the popular and powerful governor seen by his supporters as a possible candidate for president in 2016.

"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president," said Ball who represents part of the Hudson Valley. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."

In the gun debate, one concern for New York is its major gun manufacturer upstate.

Remington Arms Co. makes the Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle that was used in the Connecticut shootings and again on Christmas Eve when the two firefighters were slain in Webster. The two-century-old Remington factory in Ilion in central New York employs 1,000 workers in a Republican Senate district.

The bill was the first test of the new coalition in control of the Senate, which has long been run by Republicans opposed to gun control measures. The chamber is now in the hands of Republicans and five breakaway Democrats led by Klein, an arrangement expected to result in more progressive legislation.

Former Republican Sen. Michael Balboni said that for legislators from the more conservative upstate region of New York, gun control "has the intensity of the gay marriage issue." In 2011, three of four Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote for same-sex marriage ended up losing their jobs because of their votes.

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-seals-1st-state-gun-laws-since-newtown-074653716.html
 

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I would vote for Obama before Cuomo for president...

New York is just plain out crazy !!
How are they going to enforce mag capacity in a home ?
 

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hunter4095 said:
New York is just plain out crazy !!
How are they going to enforce mag capacity in a home ?
Seven rounds. Get real. Crazy stuff coming from a state that has it's share of hard core left wing liberals that truly want to rewrite our rights as citizens.
 

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Wow, register your Brown Bess because it has a bayonet lug. IDIOTS

In the 1970's we had to keep a record and write down the name and license number of every person who purchased pistol ammo. Now they want a back round check. Makes me glad I roll my own.
 

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Sad thing is, Remnington has a factory in NY that makes the AR-15 type rifles, those people my be out of a job if they close the factory or move it. 7 rounds is plain dumb, they are crazy, they say it will keep illegal guns out of the city, they can't even keep illegal guns coming to and from Mexico how are they going to stop that, the law abiding citizens are the ones that are going to suffer.
 

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The system is down daily now with gun purchase checks, when they start checks on ammo the whole country won't be able to buy a gun.
 

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Duckman69 said:
Sad thing is, Remnington has a factory in NY that makes the AR-15 type rifles, those people my be out of a job if they close the factory or move it. 7 rounds is plain dumb, they are crazy, they say it will keep illegal guns out of the city, they can't even keep illegal guns coming to and from Mexico how are they going to stop that, the law abiding citizens are the ones that are going to suffer.
i thought the same thing
 

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Rascals...darn new Barnett Razor Crossbow has a skinning knife mounted in stock. Gone have to register it too... Could an arrow be concidered a bayonet? Smh I am never gonna register my high capacity nail gun though.
 

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crap flows down hill fellas its comin our way look out ......this is sad
 

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the requirement for doctors and other health professionals to ask about guns violates "Obamacare"

get ready for the same stuff here in PA, most of the million hunters here will not get involved maybe a hundred will, maybe 2 hundred but thats it.

when it comes here we have the power to stop it but who will actually physically go to harrisburg for a rally against it....my guess is a couple hundred, maybe less.

there should be so many it creates gridlock over the bottom portion of PA closest harrisburg for miles in every direction. millions should go!!!!
 

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This is just the beginning.....

I will say this though, while I beleive laws like this are more easily passed in states like New York there will be big struggles to get this type of stuff passed in states like PA.

Of course if the President decides to use Executive Orders to "solve the problem" then we could all be looking at a major battle.
 

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hunter4095 said:
I would vote for Obama before Cuomo for president...

New York is just plain out crazy !!
How are they going to enforce mag capacity in a home ?
they should both be up on treason charges.
 

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Pa's new anti-gun Attorney General was sworn in today. Watch out for something to happen here.
A democrat. What a surprise. At least we have a good Governor, and a GOP contolled house and senate in PA.
 

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Wow, register your Brown Bess because it has a bayonet lug. IDIOTS

In the 1970's we had to keep a record and write down the name and license number of every person who purchased pistol ammo. Now they want a back round check. Makes me glad I roll my own.
That's a GREAT way to put it.....a Browny had a bayo lug, so it's an "assault weapon"....

The 2nd was written very well, and that's why the framers wrote it that way...that's why dumbo is having such a hard time killing it....with a gun to its head.
 
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