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Reopening Denmark Schools And Daycares Didn’t Lead To Increase In Coronavirus Cases

After allowing children to return to schools and daycares in Denmark, the country is reporting no increase in coronavirus cases, Reuters reported.

The country implemented a one month coronavirus lockdown, but allowed children between the ages of 2 and 12 to return to schools and daycares April 15, according to Reuters.

More than a month later, data collected in the five weeks since reopening show that the move didn’t create an increase in coronavirus cases.

“You cannot see any negative effects from the reopening of schools,” Peter Andersen, doctor of infectious disease epidemiology and prevention at the Danish Serum Institute told Reuters Thursday.

Similarly, Finland has yet to experience an increase in cases after deciding to reopen schools in mid-May, a top official announced Wednesday, although it could also be too soon to determine.

Denmark’s cases including children between the ages of 1 and 19 has declined since April with a slight uptick immediately after schools reopened, although Andersen told Reuters that the sudden surge was not related to the reopenings and could be explained by an increase in testing.

Denmark ended its national lockdown May 18 after a partial reopening of the country’s economy didn’t lead to a rise in cases.

The county was also the first one in Europe to enact a partial reopening, and the number of new cases and the rate of transmission had dropped following the move.

Shopping malls and restaurants were reopened May 11. Europe’s hardest hit countries, which include Italy and Spain, also began reopening restaurants and salons in May.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/denmark-school-daycare-reopening-coronavirus-no-increase-cases/?fbclid=IwAR0rvS121AR3YUXU1U9GrXJruvUXF6oCappCkMFW4mESYQx6Go-rY5dPnz0
 

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Opening daycares in this area is going to be an interesting exercise.
I have a family member working in daycare (prepping now) and the first issue is finding people to staff the daycares.
The next issue will be finding people willing to put their kids into daycare/camp...After a few hundred phone calls to get a feel for how many to expect they got 5.
Response to before/after school daycare in the fall has also been dismal to say the least.

It seems the young folks are in high demand for business because of being up to date on technology and a lot has shifted to working from home.
And the older folks don't want to deal with kids for fear of getting sick.
It could get to the point that wages for daycare workers will increase significantly thus driving up the price which in turn might make it better for one of the parents to not work and deal with their own kids.

Lots of changes are going to occur because of this pandemic.
 

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Lots of changes are going to occur because of this pandemic.
Probably a bit more accurate to say that a lot of changes are going to occur because the desire of some for those changes was the pandemic.

We have large segments more than willing to use any crisis, real or manufactured, to further their desires.
When you combine the wants for "more", be it minimum wages, "free" benefits, etc, with the perfect storm of "social crisis"..... yes, we're going to see a lot of changes, or at least proposed changes.... none of them, I fear, for the better..
 

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Either way many parents will be scared to send their kids. If parents opt to send their kids to cyber/charter schools it will cost districts thousands. Cyber/charter schools are not free and those commercials on TV are very deceptive. Those commercials even cost take payers money because it takes money from school districts. Districts will have to make plans to reopen and it will not be a traditional day. Parents and students will have to be flexible for it to work. It would be nice to open the schools the way they were before but that's not gonna happen. Here's hoping for the best.
 

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Not afraid at all to send my kids to school.
Numbers show this is no worse than any other seasonal flu.
Absolutely no reason not to return to normal, the real normal, not this "new normal" bunk, today.
If only there was enough honesty left among politicians and the media to speak real, hard, truth....
 

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Not afraid at all to send my kids to school.
Numbers show this is no worse than any other seasonal flu.
Absolutely no reason not to return to normal, the real normal, not this "new normal" bunk, today.
If only there was enough honesty left among politicians and the media to speak real, hard, truth....
I am not sure I would call it "no worse than a seasonal flu".
Looks like 2019 - 2020 flu season resulted in 102 deaths here in PA...Again the bulk being 65 and over.
https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/Flu/Pages/2019-20-Flu.aspx
 

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I am not sure I would call it "no worse than a seasonal flu".
Looks like 2019 - 2020 flu season resulted in 102 deaths here in PA...Again the bulk being 65 and over.
https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/Flu/Pages/2019-20-Flu.aspx
You can't use the 2019-2020 flu death number...don't you realize nearly all flu deaths were lumped in with covid19 deaths to inflate covid19 death stats.

You must use a year without covid for comparison. 2018-2019 was said to be a bad year for flu deaths in PA...256 deaths.

https://www.mcall.com/health/mc-nws-flu-season-story-20180529-story.html

5,096 covid19 deaths in 3 months vs. 256 flu deaths in one year. It really does appear the two viruses are very similar in nature....:sad:
 

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Did they list everyone who was positive, thought to be positive, or maybe positive for flu as a flu death in prior years, or did they list the primary cause(s)?
IDK....the only thing I know is 256 is said to be the highest number of flu deaths PA had experienced in a long time, and over 5,000 are dead from covid19 in a quarter of the amount of time.

Maybe the number of flu deaths increased 20 fold in one year and they were all tallied as covid19 deaths?????
 

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You can't use the 2019-2020 flu death number...don't you realize nearly all flu deaths were lumped in with covid19 deaths to inflate covid19 death stats.

You must use a year without covid for comparison. 2018-2019 was said to be a bad year for flu deaths in PA...256 deaths.

https://www.mcall.com/health/mc-nws-flu-season-story-20180529-story.html

5,096 covid19 deaths in 3 months vs. 256 flu deaths in one year. It really does appear the two viruses are very similar in nature....:sad:
Well, not quite the same. If we take off a certain percentage for the flu deaths that were lumped in with the virus deaths, and all the other assorted deaths which were also somehow blamed on the virus, and then the people who were just outright murdered by certain governors, the numbers for the new Kungfu Flu might be a lot lower than we've been led to believe.
 

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Well, not quite the same. If we take off a certain percentage for the flu deaths that were lumped in with the virus deaths, and all the other assorted deaths which were also somehow blamed on the virus, and then the people who were just outright murdered by certain governors, the numbers for the new Kungfu Flu might be a lot lower than we've been led to believe.
So take 50% of the reported covid deaths away....still 10x worse than the flu in a quarter of the time.

Or maybe the reporting rate is off by 95%....that would put covid19 right on par with a bad flu season in PA.
 

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Either way many parents will be scared to send their kids. If parents opt to send their kids to cyber/charter schools it will cost districts thousands.
Actually the home district gets to keep about 1/3 of the money for kids going to charter schools for book keeping purposes. So while the home district does lose money, its not all of it where else can you get a gig like that. And the charter schools were not a failure at education during this crisis like public schools were. With all the money Wolf has been force feeding the public schools, you'd think they would have been better prepared for something like this. Now there are some schools doing an exceptional job of still educating the kids, but most are a total failure; your tax dollars paying for teachers, administrators, and staff to sit home and do nothing put collect their pay check.

It would be nice to open the schools the way they were before but that's not gonna happen. Here's hoping for the best.
Rumor has it schools will open, but large gatherings will be out; assemblies, field trips, concerts, etc. But you can bet your last dollar, jockstraps wont be affected, and their sports will be played, even with limited spectators.
 

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So take 50% of the reported covid deaths away....still 10x worse than the flu in a quarter of the time.

Or maybe the reporting rate is off by 95%....that would put covid19 right on par with a bad flu season in PA.
Your math is fuzzy. Taking 50% of Covid deaths away puts it right in line with the flu. And there is a flu vaccine that has limited effectiveness. Covid is new so there was zero previous immunity.

This was never about a virus and all about controlling the people.
 

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5,096 covid19 deaths in 3 months vs. 256 flu deaths in one year. It really does appear the two viruses are very similar in nature....:sad:

But simon how many of those covid deaths on the list did not die of covid at all? We all have heard of family members getting the death certificate and finding it said cause of death covid when they know their loved one died of a massive heart attack or whatever. The numbers have been so jacked around who knows how many of those covid deaths really are just that.
 

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Your math is fuzzy. Taking 50% of Covid deaths away puts it right in line with the flu. And there is a flu vaccine that has limited effectiveness. Covid is new so there was zero previous immunity.

This was never about a virus and all about controlling the people.
Not for deaths in PA....

2018-19 flu season in PA 256

Covid19 deaths in PA 5096 x.50= 2,548 which is ~ 10x greater than 256


5096 x .95= `~4,841 5096-4841= 255


As you can see, the 255 flu deaths in PA in the 2018-2019 flu season is 5% of the number of deaths thus far contributed to covid19 in PA.


The math is not fuzzy at all.
 

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So take 50% of the reported covid deaths away....still 10x worse than the flu in a quarter of the time.

Or maybe the reporting rate is off by 95%....that would put covid19 right on par with a bad flu season in PA.
Or maybe, "flu deaths" from prior years were only counted as "flu deaths" IF there was no other determining/contributing factor, whereas today, they're counting every death, regardless of underlying/primary cause, as a COVID death whether the virus was the root cause, present in the "victim's" system, suspected to be in the "victim's" system, or could possibly be in the "victim's" system....
 

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But simon how many of those covid deaths on the list did not die of covid at all? We all have heard of family members getting the death certificate and finding it said cause of death covid when they know their loved one died of a massive heart attack or whatever. The numbers have been so jacked around who knows how many of those covid deaths really are just that.
As I've already said.....to equate it to the flu, you have to take away 95% of the covid deaths.....using the numbers for PA.

I'm not saying numbers are not being inflated. But do you really think they are being jacked anywhere in the neighborhood of 95%?

This ain't the flu.
 
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