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I read on here a lot and see tons of discarded tires along the roads, over the banks and in streams and rivers. What would anybody's opinion be on charging $1.00 or some similar fee on each tire sold and then keep a data base to find out who is throwing the tires away? Could create a couple of jobs and clean up our beautiful state. I never hear of anyone ever being caught and prosecuted for littering at all.
All tires have a serial number on them so the first big step is already taken do they not?

I would like to hear pros and cons on what can be done to clean up after these slobs.
We clean up a section of road by our home and pay to have it disposed of only to find more the very next day.
 

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Most tire dealers charge you a fee for disposing of you old tires..Alot of people probably just tell the dealer to throw the old tires in the cars trunk and through them out along the road somewhere.This is what creates this problem..
 

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This would mean more Government involvment in our lives ?? if people sold tires to each other this means they would have to go and get them Transferred ?? Perhaps they could do this with Plastic pop bottles ?? how about bait containers ?? we see all around the lake ?? if we register tires ,,are ALL guns next ( even long Guns )?? what about shell casings , we see them in the woods all the time also ,,cigarette butts are a real eyesore also ?? I seen a TV and couch at Moraine someone dumped .where does it end ??
 

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Dave2pa said:
This would mean more Government involvment in our lives ?? if people sold tires to each other this means they would have to go and get them Transferred ?? Perhaps they could do this with Plastic pop bottles ?? how about bait containers ?? we see all around the lake ?? if we register tires ,,are ALL guns next ( even long Guns )?? what about shell casings , we see them in the woods all the time also ,,cigarette butts are a real eyesore also ?? I seen a TV and couch at Moraine someone dumped .where does it end ??
Buddy, maybe you should switch to decaf.......
 

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The serial numbers are already on the tires for the guarantee of the tire. Create a system to find these slobs. The PGC has the same littering problem and it is costing them a lot of money. If we could find these type of people and fine them then they would be glad to pay the tire dealer the money to properly dispose of them.
Thanks for your views and yes all the litter you mention are eyesores but we need to start somewhere.
 

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Dave2pa said:
This would mean more Government involvment in our lives ?? if people sold tires to each other this means they would have to go and get them Transferred ?? Perhaps they could do this with Plastic pop bottles ?? how about bait containers ?? we see all around the lake ?? if we register tires ,,are ALL guns next ( even long Guns )?? what about shell casings , we see them in the woods all the time also ,,cigarette butts are a real eyesore also ?? I seen a TV and couch at Moraine someone dumped .where does it end ??
Why so negative? Are you suggesting that unless we can fix the entire world and all its problems, or even just some of the litter problems there is no sense in trying to fix anything at all?

I think the idea of registering tire serial numbers in a data bank when a person has new ones put on and then takes the old ones with them could go along ways toward addressing a growing problem.

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Dave2pa said:
This would mean more Government involvment in our lives ?? if people sold tires to each other this means they would have to go and get them Transferred ?? Perhaps they could do this with Plastic pop bottles ?? how about bait containers ?? we see all around the lake ?? if we register tires ,,are ALL guns next ( even long Guns )?? what about shell casings , we see them in the woods all the time also ,,cigarette butts are a real eyesore also ?? I seen a TV and couch at Moraine someone dumped .where does it end ??

I agree.
 

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The tire registeration is a bad idea.First ,tire price would increase because you would have to hire someone to keep track of all these serial numbers,two,how do I know that after I pay the garage to get rid of my tires,they don't pocket the money and go dump them somewhere?I don't know what the answer is,but I think this idea would have a lot of flaws.
 

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i agree that registering tires sounds like a problem waiting to happen. whats next government run heath care

but if the "fee" for getting rid of the old tires was some how put on the front end when they were bought and it didn't cost anthing to get rid of them that might help.
 

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Not real hard to get rid of a serial number on a rubber tire I'm sure.
But I agree , more rules and laws ,just like with drugs , after all just look how well that's all working out.
What we need are serial numbers on MOUNTAIN DEW bottles , because those people are the worse , I will see 10 empty mountain dew bottles littering the woods and streams for every one pepsi,coke,etc bottle.
Don't believe me , count for yourself.
Dang criminals , register those M.D bottles and make sure they are disposed of or face a flogging.
 

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It isn't exactly a serial number that's on a tire. It's called a DOT number. Hundreds of tires will have the same DOT number. Its more like a batch or lot number. Used for warranties and recalls. If theres a manufacturer's defect the whole batch made is recalled.

Great idea, but its impossible to track. There's no ROI in doing so. Would be much cheaper to make inmates pick them up.
 

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I'm pretty sure we already pay a tire tax on new tires. We even have to pay it when we purchase new vehicles. The funds were to be used to properly dispose of old tires. At least that's the way I understood it when I purchased my last car.
 

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Then where does this money go? I see piles of two to three tires dumped on back roads all the time. If there is a fee paid on tires then where does it go?
 

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I am completely astonished (and concerned) at the willingness people have to use the tax code to change behavior. Our founding fathers are no longer turning over in their grave; they are now digging through the bottom of their pine box in an effort to get even greater distance from what was a great country. Personal responsibility and fear of our government is so far removed from peoples thought process that it is now the norm to look to our wonderful government to solve every social issue we have. (Including discarded tires) Just saying

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I understand where you're going with that, but sometimes it takes some sort of governing force to enact, and uphold certain things. Let's face it, without the threat of heavy fines, incarcerations, death penalties, etc.... (all passed with legislation), this would be an exponentially more horrible modern-day America in which we live. As a landowner, we aren't allowed to shoot scoundrel's that lay waste to our personal and private properties like they were able to in the days of Jefferson and Wshington.
 

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Thing is, fines and jail time was not suggested, using the govt to track your purchases and control your actions before you have done anything wrong was.
 

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Amen Brother. We are a land of laws. No they don't all get enforced equally but we do need them. Am I to beleive these posts that don't want the government to get involved any more that they like seeing these tires and garbage along the roads? We need some kind tracking to find out who is doing it then fines and maybe even jail time. I can't believe that responsible people want to stay with the status quo.
 
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