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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2841


Disarm Hate Act
This bill amends the federal criminal code to prohibit firearm sale or transfer to and receipt or possession by an individual who has: (1) been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor hate crime, or (2) received from any court an enhanced hate crime misdemeanor sentence.
The term "convicted in any court of a misdemeanor hate crime" means a conviction for a misdemeanor offense that has, as an element, that the conduct was motivated by hate or bias because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person.


The term "received from any court an enhanced hate crime misdemeanor sentence" means the imposition of an enhanced sentence for a misdemeanor that involves violence and is based, in whole or in part, on conduct motivated by hate or bias because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person.






not just hate...but bias.


if you disagree with someones perceived gender be very careful about what you say...it appears they can charge you because you are biased and they can take your 2A rights.


i totally agree with the intent of hate crime legislation but its actually a repeat of existing laws. this "hate" crime bill is a snake in the grass and appears to make it easier for folks to lose their 2A rights based on an accusation of "hate" simply by being biased of how someone identifies sexually. i think this bill would violate someones 1A rights too.


if someone acts out violently against anyone for any reason there are already laws that make that a crime.



gonna be interesting.
 

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Another case of not wanting to enforce exsisting laws because Political Correctness is more important than individual freedoms in certain political circles. What ever happened to government by the people, for the people?:surprise2:
 

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laws exist that cover all discrimination. all this one does is violate your first amendment rights to an opinion. if you get caught calling a She/he/it, transgender, cross gender, undecided, or one who identifies as something else a "Freak", it could be labeled as "Hate Speech". you get charged, convicted of a misdemeanor in front of a DJ and you lose your firearms and right to buy any more under this bill....its not really about hate, its all about gun control.


this must not pass !!
 

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Another case of not wanting to enforce exsisting laws because Political Correctness is more important than individual freedoms in certain political circles. What ever happened to government by the people, for the people?:surprise2:
To the left, it is more important to appear as though you are actually doing something to address a problem than to actually do something about the problem. It is all about appearances!
 

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I would ask you this before you get to bent out of shape. Do you know how hard it is to get hate crime charges applied??? seriously do some research and I will guarantee you this is a complete false flag. They want to pass something that makes someone happy they are doing something when in reality it will never be used or have any bearing on anything. In EVERY case that they apply "hate crime charges" it is #1 - already a felony which would prevent the person from owning a gun and #2 it's is always completely clear is it NO GRAY area. You pretty much have to be saying I am doing this to this person for this reason while your committing the crime to get charged.
 

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I see the last action taken on this bill was 7/19/2017 I don't know how long a bill can stay active but it doesn't seem like this has gone to far in the last two years. Not saying we shouldn't keep an eye on it just saying it doesn't seem to be getting much attention.
 

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I would ask you this before you get to bent out of shape. Do you know how hard it is to get hate crime charges applied??? seriously do some research and I will guarantee you this is a complete false flag. They want to pass something that makes someone happy they are doing something when in reality it will never be used or have any bearing on anything. In EVERY case that they apply "hate crime charges" it is #1 - already a felony which would prevent the person from owning a gun and #2 it's is always completely clear is it NO GRAY area. You pretty much have to be saying I am doing this to this person for this reason while your committing the crime to get charged.
Quite frankly I do not give a rats backside about how hard it is. The hate crime enhancement is a crock of male bovine excrement to begin with. An assault is an assault, a murder is a murder, all this nonsense about hate crime enhancement goes right along with the special protection for certain classes of people which is also a crock! Only lefties want to separate the people of this country and give special protection to some. Either we are all equal under the law or we are not! Anything else is PR and pandering for votes. The only false flag are those pushing this crap. I really don't care if it is never applied, it is the very idea that it could be that roasts my chestnuts. The government is dividing us by giving special protection to certain classes of people and there are people who are too stupid to realize what it is doing and approve of it.
 
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I would ask you this before you get to bent out of shape. Do you know how hard it is to get hate crime charges applied??? seriously do some research and I will guarantee you this is a complete false flag. They want to pass something that makes someone happy they are doing something when in reality it will never be used or have any bearing on anything. In EVERY case that they apply "hate crime charges" it is #1 - already a felony which would prevent the person from owning a gun and #2 it's is always completely clear is it NO GRAY area. You pretty much have to be saying I am doing this to this person for this reason while your committing the crime to get charged.

thats exactly right. hate crime laws already exist that are felonies. this bill makes lesser forms of bias a "misdemeanor" hate crime, that will end your possession of firearms and your right to buy any. a district judge can find you guilty of a misdemeanor, wont even take a jury trial.


you can gamble on this, not me.
 
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