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I don’t know if it’s insanity or just plain evil, or both. The PC/BLM/Leftist/Commie Mob has totally lost it. They have spend years trying to take peoples guns away, now they want to decrease or eliminate the police. What do they expect will happen in the middle of the night and they need help? This mentality is dangerous. Look at Baghdad, look at Somalia, or any other place that lost their police. It only takes hours before anarchy sets in.
 

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Anyone with a fully functioning brain will be moving out of the big cities. I say let those cities become a case study for socialism in America! It would solve a lot of problems for the conservatives, and our "free is for me" youth movement may actually see that their university professor's promises were nothing but lies.
 

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This is the most baffling part of this entire mess. Defund the police??? Who comes up with this stuff? What are we going to use in place of the the police...the military? Or is it supposed to be a free for all so that thugs don’t get hurt/killed while they commit their crimes?
 

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Anyone with a fully functioning brain will be moving out of the big cities. I say let those cities become a case study for socialism in America! It would solve a lot of problems for the conservatives, and our "free is for me" youth movement may actually see that their university professor's promises were nothing but lies.
i think we should seriously consider breaking these socialist hot beds called cities off from the US.. Who needs them? They are a mpney drag, social misfits, refuge for illegals and the breeding ground for revolutionaries. Just draw a line on the East Cpst about 50 miles from the Coast from Boston to Norfolk and cut them loose. Do the same on the West Coast.

If you want to look at something interesting check out a map counties colored red or blue for Trump and Hillary. It pretty much shows what I outlined above if you give the Communists the Chicago area.
 

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What are we going to use in place of the the police...the military?
Obama will supply the police based on the Chinese model. All police report to and are members of the Communist party.. They use techniques illegal here to keep control like total surveillance, jail without trial and re-education centers.

Buck the party line at your own peril. Ask the muslims there how it is working out for them. Or the doctor that was killed before he could spread the truth on the virus.

Antifa looks to like the new police force.
 

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My solution? Black cops in black neighborhoods. At that point, they'll have to create some other reason for why things are so bad there.

Look at the cities with black mayors. Any different there?
 

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This sounds ridiculous but they are dead serious. This is all part of the plan. Remember Obama's "Civilian National Security Force" ? They put this stuff out there and people don't take it seriously until it is too late.
I believe were are witnessing the beginning of the end game for destroying our republic. ANTIFA has been rehearsing their tactics in the Seattle and the Pacific Northwest for several years. Through shutting down cities, highways, campuses, and assaulting citizens the learned that the police cannot or will be ordered not to stop them. The few who are arrested are released by corrupt judges. Federal and state justice departments will not confront them and the media, along with corporate leaders,will praise and justify their actions all the while lecturing us about intolerance. ANTIFA is well organized, funded, and trained. They are not a bunch of colleges students with man buns acting out. They are dangerous, dedicated and we must take them seriously.
So now they've taken advantage of the current mass violence to apply what they've learned on a much larger scale. This isn't be the tipping point, yet, but its getting closer. People respond to and are attracted to power and the rioting, looting, and images of police and National Guard troops kneeling before the so called protesters is the most powerful recruiting opportunity I can imagine.
Read how the Nazis, Communists in Russia in 1917 and Spain in the late 30's and Mao's gentle agrarian reformers over through governments and seized power. Be it brown shirts, black shirts or black hoodies, the same playbook is in action in the U.S.A. today. You can't bargain or negotiate with them.
Too bad the FBI has been focused on the real threat to our republic, no, not ISIS or Islamic terrorists, or ANTIFA, but "White nationalist gun owners"!
The first responsibility of the federal government is to protect the citizens and it looks to me that so far they are failing. I believe the President will do what he can but can we trust the federal agencies AKA the Deep State to not sabotage his efforts? Don't doubt for a minute that ANTIFA has infiltrated state and local governments, law enforcement including federal agencies and even the military.
Sorry for the angry rant but I'm pissed off and worried for the future of our country. I'd guess that most of us on this forum have similar backgrounds. Probably grew up in rural areas or maybe cities. Didn't matter, we spent every spare moment in the woods or afield, hunting, fishing, or hiking. We went to school, some to college, served in the military, worked hard,raised our sons and daughters with the same work ethic and taught them how to hunt and fish, and hit what they aim at. And more than that we instilled love of freedom and country, to respect the flag and to respect everyone regardless of social status, religion or race. Now we look around and see whats going on and we don't know what to do about it. We can all defend our homes but how do we defend our country? And how do we do it without destroying what we hope to save?
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That was not a rant TomHudson, it is the truth. Thanks for posting. Not enough Conservatives realize the danger this country is in right now. I believe the Socialists are winning . They have been planning this attack for years, they are well funded and most of their supporters don't understand what they are supporting,
 

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My solution? Black cops in black neighborhoods. At that point, they'll have to create some other reason for why things are so bad there.

Look at the cities with black mayors. Any different there?
They tied an experiment in St. Petersburg FL years ago in which they did just as you suggested. They had all their black officers patrolling the majority black neighborhoods.

After a short while, the officers were demanding to patrol the “safer”, white neighborhoods because they were tired of being threatened and assaulted...
 

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Here’s the reality.

You know what the main purpose of police forces all across the country is? Safety and security? Stopping the bad guys?

Thank again. It’s revenue collection! Fines, parking tickets, speeding tickets, etc. These big cities use their police forces to bring in tons of money through fines and regulatory fees. But don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that police “have it easy” or anything if the sort, I’m just saying that the idea of “stopping” murders and rapes and such is for the most part a myth. Most of the time, these things can’t be stopped ahead of time like in Minority Report, the police just show up after the fact to clean up the mess and investigate.

What DOES happen is that The police do their job, arrest the bad guys breaking the law, and then the courts who are dominated by liberal activists, slap them on the wrist and turn them back out on the street. Time and time again, these career criminals are turned back out until they rape or murder someone while they should have been in jail.

If you’ve ever spent time in a big city, you’ll see how the revenue collection works. I sat in downtown Manhattan before and watched as countless delivery trucks and vans had to park on the street to deliver goods to the local businesses. A “meter maid” was sitting on the street, just waiting for these vans to pull up and then they’d stroll right over and place a ticket on the windshield. Delivery guy would come back out, say hi to the meter maid, grab the ticket and throw it in the glove compartment and be on his way. A local then explained that this happens every single day in every single street and that these delivery services have PILES of parking violations every single day and that they just roll it into their bills as a surcharge. And this is a large part of the reason that it costs so much to live and operate a business in these big cities. The reason it costs $15 for a sandwich and chips at a Manhattan deli.

The unfortunate thing is that when the chaos starts, these mayors force these cops out into the street to stand down and do nothing and essentially because target practice for the rioters. They use these cops to bring in revenue for the city and then use them for political gain by throwing them under the bus repeatedly. DeBlasio is the poster child for this tactic.
 

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Here’s the reality.

You know what the main purpose of police forces all across the country is? Safety and security? Stopping the bad guys?

Thank again. It’s revenue collection! Fines, parking tickets, speeding tickets, etc. These big cities use their police forces to bring in tons of money through fines and regulatory fees. But don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that police “have it easy” or anything if the sort, I’m just saying that the idea of “stopping” murders and rapes and such is for the most part a myth. Most of the time, these things can’t be stopped ahead of time like in Minority Report, the police just show up after the fact to clean up the mess and investigate.

What DOES happen is that The police do their job, arrest the bad guys breaking the law, and then the courts who are dominated by liberal activists, slap them on the wrist and turn them back out on the street. Time and time again, these career criminals are turned back out until they rape or murder someone while they should have been in jail.

If you’ve ever spent time in a big city, you’ll see how the revenue collection works. I sat in downtown Manhattan before and watched as countless delivery trucks and vans had to park on the street to deliver goods to the local businesses. A “meter maid” was sitting on the street, just waiting for these vans to pull up and then they’d stroll right over and place a ticket on the windshield. Delivery guy would come back out, say hi to the meter maid, grab the ticket and throw it in the glove compartment and be on his way. A local then explained that this happens every single day in every single street and that these delivery services have PILES of parking violations every single day and that they just roll it into their bills as a surcharge. And this is a large part of the reason that it costs so much to live and operate a business in these big cities. The reason it costs $15 for a sandwich and chips at a Manhattan deli.

The unfortunate thing is that when the chaos starts, these mayors force these cops out into the street to stand down and do nothing and essentially because target practice for the rioters. They use these cops to bring in revenue for the city and then use them for political gain by throwing them under the bus repeatedly. DeBlasio is the poster child for this tactic.



been there, seen that, way to many times to count. two, come to mind. one guy (black) out on an appearance bond who was waiting to go to jail for the next 11 years, he had already been sentenced, let him stay out on bond. he was arrested on an armed home invasion where he shot a woman in the hip, let him out on bond and never revoked the appearance bond. he started robbing banks and eventually was cornered by the police who had to shoot and kill him.


another guy, same race, arrested for robbing a jewlery store and shooting the owner in the stomach just for asking if the gun was real. out on bond, arrested again for armed robbery, out on bond again, arrested for beating a man and hospitalizing him, out on bond again...finally arrested on a drug charge and carrying a firearm, this time the judge finally revoked all bonds and denied future bond based on his violent actions. many, many more. this happens a lot and you dont know it unless you work in the county jail or follow the names in the paper.


or judges are idiots.
 
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