I find it interesting in seeing the number of threads on deer numbers an PGC's failure to provide everyone a glimps of a deer. I remember growing up in DuBois in the 60's and you couldn't cross the main drag on the Friday after Thanksgiving without getting hit by a car from the numbers of hunters heading to the "big woods". I have seen a big change in the area I hunt now in SW PA. 15 years ago I logged out the farm. The next 8 years I was over run with deer. Now that the woods have started to grow back in the deer numbers are down. Not from hunting, but from lack of food/brows. Habitat is the answer. With growing populations and not drastic changes in "habitat" I dodn't see thing drasticaly improving. Just my own opinion.