[bohunr]

does anybody know the rules or regulations of hunting coyote with hounds ?

specifically when chasing a coyote it cross from public land to private ground ? what about trespassing ? Liability ?

what if the landowner is out with their dogs and your dogs chase the coyote right thru everything ?

what if its a farm and they have horses or cattle or sheep and the coyote and dogs run thru and cause the horses or cattle to run and one of them gets hurt, twists a leg or breaks it ?

just asking in case someone here knows. i called the PGC and they said to ask the PSP.

 

[ChrisLD]

Wait so the pgc didn't even know? Sounds about right ..

I know I've heard of landowners shooting dogs trespassing on their property local here 3 different times in my life.

I know I wouldn't want my dog running a yote through anyone's property I didn't have permission to be in, in the first place. Just because they have a mind their own and are in the moment chasing that yote, doesn't mean it's not tresspassing all the same.

I would not put myself or a group of guys in a situation where they chase a coyote, into private ground I couldn't go into in the first place.

The entire, going into any place to "retrieve your dog" is only going to work at certain times. Some landowners just don't care. Not good to subject your group to that if avoidable.

 

[kdvarmint]

I see restrictions coming regarding hunting coyotes with dogs just for this reason. To many today just don't give a care.

 

[DrMaurice]

You are not allowed to trespass on posted ground, period. If your dogs go on posted ground, it is not trespassing. If your dogs cause someone to suffer a loss, you could be held liable.

 

[foodplottrot]

does anybody know the rules or regulations of hunting coyote with hounds ?

specifically when chasing a coyote it cross from public land to private ground ? what about trespassing ? Liability ?

what if the landowner is out with their dogs and your dogs chase the coyote right thru everything ?

what if its a farm and they have horses or cattle or sheep and the coyote and dogs run thru and cause the horses or cattle to run and one of them gets hurt, twists a leg or breaks it ?

just asking in case someone here knows. i called the PGC and they said to ask the PSP.

Last i checked dogs couldn't read...

 

[foodplottrot]

Wait so the pgc didn't even know? Sounds about right ..

I know I've heard of landowners shooting dogs trespassing on their property local here 3 different times in my life.

I know I wouldn't want my dog running a yote through anyone's property I didn't have permission to be in, in the first place. Just because they have a mind their own and are in the moment chasing that yote, doesn't mean it's not tresspassing all the same.

I would not put myself or a group of guys in a situation where they chase a coyote, into private ground I couldn't go into in the first place.

The entire, going into any place to "retrieve your dog" is only going to work at certain times. Some landowners just don't care. Not good to subject your group to that if avoidable.

You guys are unbelievable and extremely naive to think if you jump a coyote with a hound that they will not run through property that is posted, or that you are not allowed to be on. Dogs and I repeat DOGS CANNOT READ. We have chases, that when all said and done go over 40 miles. Now that is not a regular occurrence, but it does happen. Dogs can go where they want, and when they want, and there is not a thing you can do about it, unless you see them actually attacking a big game animal or a farm animal or one of your pets.

 

[bohunr]

not saying dogs can read. but i am wondering about liability to livestock including horses. if they run a coyote thru a pasture and horse breaks a leg, i bet the dog owner is liable.

or...small children playing outside and the dogs run a coyote thru the backyard, the children run, trip and get injured, i bet the dog owner is liable.


just something to think about.

 

[foodplottrot]

Interesting thoughts for sure, most likely fall under home owner's insurance? that seems like the catch all insurance haha.

with that said it would be very difficult to track down said dog & said owner/hunter with how fast the chase comes & exits.

and we all know how "quickly" our law enforcement responds to such requests.

 

[kdvarmint]

So the heck with respect of any private land owner. My dog can go anywhere he wants and you can't do anything about it.
Smh. The end is already in sight for hunting coyotes with dogs. It's just a short matter if time. And when it comes, it will be the result of a complete lack of respect of a handful of dog runners. Pitiful.

And read the law. Dogs can be killed for far less than attacking.

 

[beagler]

The end is already in sight for hunting coyotes with dogs. It's just a short matter if time.

 

[ChrisLD]

Wait so the pgc didn't even know? Sounds about right ..

I know I've heard of landowners shooting dogs trespassing on their property local here 3 different times in my life.

I know I wouldn't want my dog running a yote through anyone's property I didn't have permission to be in, in the first place. Just because they have a mind their own and are in the moment chasing that yote, doesn't mean it's not tresspassing all the same.

I would not put myself or a group of guys in a situation where they chase a coyote, into private ground I couldn't go into in the first place.

The entire, going into any place to "retrieve your dog" is only going to work at certain times. Some landowners just don't care. Not good to subject your group to that if avoidable.

You guys are unbelievable and extremely naive to think if you jump a coyote with a hound that they will not run through property that is posted, or that you are not allowed to be on. Dogs and I repeat DOGS CANNOT READ. We have chases, that when all said and done go over 40 miles. Now that is not a regular occurrence, but it does happen. Dogs can go where they want, and when they want, and there is not a thing you can do about it, unless you see them actually attacking a big game animal or a farm animal or one of your pets.

Sounds to me like if there's any concern of hounds going into private grounds in the first place that area should be avoided.

Not naive, just stating the facts. Like plenty of other landowners in PA I bought land for my use, and my use only so I didn't have to deal with any interference. I would be hot if I was sitting in my treestands and a group of guys tromped through my property. Wouldn't you??

Either way, no sense in getting worked up about it. We all have to stick together as outdoorsman and support each other, the anti's numbers are becoming greater and greater... peace

 

[338/378wm]

does anybody know the rules or regulations of hunting coyote with hounds ?

specifically when chasing a coyote it cross from public land to private ground ? what about trespassing ? Liability ?

what if the landowner is out with their dogs and your dogs chase the coyote right thru everything ?

what if its a farm and they have horses or cattle or sheep and the coyote and dogs run thru and cause the horses or cattle to run and one of them gets hurt, twists a leg or breaks it ?

just asking in case someone here knows. i called the PGC and they said to ask the PSP.

What blows my mind is that the PGC told you to call the PSP for something that is hunting related. What do these people do anymore? I have never seen an agency that has so little to do with hunting related stuff anymore. The PGC is one of the worst agencies as far as hunters concerns and customer service as compared to all the other states I have hunted. In many other states the wildlife officers are more than willing to help you and also arrest you if you are breaking the rules. You don't trespass in many of the other states and I know the PGC people will say its not our issue its a legislative issue. Well maybe the PGC should lobby for them having the power to enforce trespass laws while hunting. Blows my mind a game protetor can not enforce trespass laws while someone is hunting. Their response call your local police. Yea the local police really want to go to trespass complaints during hunting season while the game protectors can do nothing.
This activity is all hunting related and has nothing to do with police. The PGC should be giving better answers than call the PSP. I have seen in many other states and on TV with all the new game warden shows that do way more and have more power to enforce game laws and many other outdoor laws than what our game protectors are allowed to do. something is wrong with our current system as our game protectors should have more power on trespass laws and ATV laws.

 

[kdvarmint]

Go ahead Beagler, have your laugh. But I'll bet it will be short lived. I feel sorry for a lot of you already, you're going to lose what you enjoy and you don't even see it coming.

 

[kdvarmint]

[/QUOTE]Either way, no sense in getting worked up about it. We all have to stick together as outdoorsman and support each other, the anti's numbers are becoming greater and greater... peace[/QUOTE]

Sorry. I will never support someone's ignorance.

I would like to someday get to hunt coyotes with dogs myself. I think it would be a blast. But in no way will I ever be a part of some of the attitudes I've seen demonstrated here and other places. I predict your gonna see a lot of growing conflicts in just the next 5 years. And I'll bet it will start amongst hunters and the Mesquite hunt. Those with dogs are in the extreme minority and better wake up if they want to continue their sport. It's only going to take one incident to make headlines and the non hunting public will be against them, and much of the hunting public. I can't believe anyone could be naive enough to not see it.

 

[bohunr]

Interesting thoughts for sure, most likely fall under home owner's insurance? that seems like the catch all insurance haha.

with that said it would be very difficult to track down said dog & said owner/hunter with how fast the chase comes & exits.

and we all know how "quickly" our law enforcement responds to such requests.

SERIOUSLY ? please tell me you are not saying if someones coyote hounds are at fault its the responsibility of the property owner to pay for what happens because the hounds and their owners will make a fast escape.

i bet they cant get the hounds back in the cage before i can grab a shotgun loaded with #4 buckshot, jump in vehicle and drive around the square to see who is parked where and when i find them, i can call 911 on my cell phone and follow them until PSP arrives.

The gun is for protection against hot headed houndsmen who trespass and dont care.

probably same type of guys that steal treestand, trail cameras while running yotes with their dogs thru the woods.

FYI..i am not accusing you of anything.

 

[Run2Catch]

The large amount of land needed vs. the small size of parcels in nwpa is what keeps me from getting into coyote hounds.

When i do see a group of yote hunters at the local sgl, i ask them where they plan to drop, and try to stay out of their way. Coyotes eat rabbits, beagles and deer...my 3 favorite animals...and i hope they kill every last one.

 

[Little Big Man]

So the heck with respect of any private land owner. My dog can go anywhere he wants and you can't do anything about it.
Smh. The end is already in sight for hunting coyotes with dogs. It's just a short matter if time. And when it comes, it will be the result of a complete lack of respect of a handful of dog runners. Pitiful.

And read the law. Dogs can be killed for far less than attacking.

Did somebody pee in your wheaties?????

 

[kdvarmint]

So the heck with respect of any private land owner. My dog can go anywhere he wants and you can't do anything about it.
Smh. The end is already in sight for hunting coyotes with dogs. It's just a short matter if time. And when it comes, it will be the result of a complete lack of respect of a handful of dog runners. Pitiful.

And read the law. Dogs can be killed for far less than attacking.

Did somebody pee in your wheaties?????

Did somebody poop on your spoon?????
Lol.

 

[beagler]

It sounds like you are condemning all individuals who run hounds.
Here is the association I belong to. We promote sportsmanship and hound owners rights and responsibilities.
www.pafoxhunters.com

 

[kdvarmint]

It sounds like you are condemning all individuals who run hounds.
Here is the association I belong to. We promote sportsmanship and hound owners rights and responsibilities.
www.pafoxhunters.com

, it will be the result of a complete lack of respect of a handful of dog runners.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you actually read the words I wrote, there is no way you could come to that silly conclusion.