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Congradulations to all that scored.Some nice bucks have definately been shot.For those of you who picked up a crossbow and hunted archery season,I hope it was everything you'd hoped.If you weren't successful in harvesting a deer,hang in there,there's a learning curve involved and it only get's better.It ain't over till the fat lady sings and there's still some great hunting left during the rifle season and the late season.

I'm also pleasantly surprised at the number of positive kill threads instead of the predicted large number of wounded deer.It seems you all did excellent as a group.While I don't have an interest in actually using a crossbow,I feel much better about full inclsuion now.Thanks.
 

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Thanks man and appreciate the post. It was a great season by most accounts and I could not be happier for everyone that put a tag on a deer or just enjoyed the new opportunities.

Still antleress archery in the SRA and the late archery statewide. Some more deer will fall I am sure.

 

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Nice post dce...behind the scenes i was talking about a couple things along those lines concerning the crossbow inclusion.

1. How few HPAers seem to of used them despite all the hype about it before hand (and/or harvest with them). Most seemed to be those that used them in SRA's already in the past.

2. How many good quick kill stories we had on here from those that did get shots. I know the two does we got with ours were both laying down within 20 yards of being hit thru the ribs, although we did still have some good wait time like with any boradhead wound, the shots were nicely placed.

Anyway,my son (12) got his second deer ever with ours and my wife got out a day or two more than she would of otherwise by now...so for our initial year, eventhough my dreams of bucks falling for all were unfulfilled...LOL ,I give it a real postive end result.

my son being able to make a shot like that is not something he could of done right now with a bow, so I am glad we got to add the experience into his young hunting career. I made him pass on a 35 yard shot on a Tremendous buck 2 hours before the BB showed up (a shot that I likely would of taken hunting solo when the angle got right and it did), and although he would of had a good chance of making that shot count, the distance was a bit far for him and his not knowing when the angle was just right for broadhead pass thru made me tell him not to shoot, and we paid for that..but in a strange way it adds to the rewards of getting the BB later that day with the right range and angles for him. I just hope that great buck comes back for him in rifle season.

Next year the Mrs. will get her own crossbow, in hopes it gets her out more. She could only go when John didn't want to, although that was not her only hurdle most Saturdays.

Overall, I am happy with the decision I made back in April to get one, for the most part it went accroding to plan.
 

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I think we all have to agree that sales were most likely down this year do to the economy and way this process was handled by the boc.In time,sales will certainly increase.However,hunter numbers will also decrease at the same time.I see no reason anymore that the resource will be effected in a negative way.

Up until last week,when I resigned,I was on a committee that ran a controlled archery hunt.I don't know what happened this year but I was extremely disappointed in the number of wounded and lost deer.I'm starting to think that alot more hunters should be using crossbows instead of compounds.It really pains me to admit that.

I have to admit though,it was refreshing to see more people excited to hit the october woods again.I still don't understand why these people didn't have an interest in using a compound but in the end,it really doesn't matter.Seeing people enjoy the outdoors is all that really matters.As long as it doesn't effect the resource and season length,and I doubt it will,all is good.

I hope that crossbow kill re-ignites the fire your son has to hunt.

Because of our changing demographics,I always new that we'd eventually need to add crossbows.I wasn't sure the time was right but now I'm not afraid to admit that I was probably wrong.Good job fellas.
 

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Great Post Denny, I hunt with both compound and xbow and I love them both.
 

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Class post dce.

Makes me very glad now that when we did draw swords on this issue, we did not swing them to kill.
 

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Class post dce.

Makes me very glad now that when we did draw swords on this issue, we did not swing them to kill.
I still stand behind some of my personal,self-serving opinions but I do believe I was wrong about some of my other speculations,if that makes sense.It's tough to take this internet stuff personally because words are only part of the discussions.I'm not nearly as abrasive in person.You can't see me smile when I'm posting most of the stuff I write.

I take hunting issues pretty serious and I'm definately opinionated on alot of things.In this case,I believe some of my opinions probably needed adjusted.


I think hunting has it's best rewards when it's somewhat more challenging.I hate it when people take running shots at deer but I'll slam you if you shoot a sitting grouse.I'm ok with treestands but feel blinds are best left for duck hunting.I often wrestle with my own convictions.
 

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Great Post Denny, I hunt with both compound and xbow and I love them both.
I've had a chance to play with a few of the newer crossbows.I agree that they're cool weapons in their own regard.They don't interest me because I love the preperation and tinkering it takes for me to use a compound.I can see why a guy would want to try one out though.
 

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Trust me, the tinkering never stops with a crossbow. I started tinkering in March. I just ordered some more arrows and weights to try out in a few days. The arrow is the only thing you can change on a crossbow and I keep trying to find the perfect arrow. Now that the season is on a break, I can try a few new combinations.
 

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Great post. I wish there were more people like you on this site.
I started the season with my compound. Bought a Cross bow so my kids could enjoy archery. They had very limited time due to sports and other activities, and I really liked it, so I hunted with it quite a bit. Took my best deer to date with it and am proud I did to.
 

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It is refreshing to hear more positive observations beginning to surface about the crossbow. It takes a pretty big guy to say "this crossbow stuff might not be that bad after all".

Congrats to all that scored and a special "Good Job
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I don't claim to be a big guy.I just believe in giving credit where it's due.I felt overall,the lack of negative crossbow posting was a good thing.While I was skeptical and somewhat negative at times about full inclusion,I certainly wasn't wishing that everyone's fears and speculations would come true.This is a time when it actually felt good to be potentially wrong.
 

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Hodgen said:
It is refreshing to hear more positive observations beginning to surface about the crossbow. It takes a pretty big guy to say "this crossbow stuff might not be that bad after all".

Congrats to all that scored and a special "Good Job
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I have to agree with many thoughts posted here. I had my "lightball"
moment when my brother came to me for advice regarding his sons recent interest in hunting. While my brother has hunted in the past and was a big time trapper back in the day, he has been out of the loop for quite some time and he and I haven't hunted together for roughly 22 or so years.

Anyway, his son wanted to archery hunt with a compound this year. He got a late start and I (YES, ME PEPPY) suggested they get a crossbow and hunt together if he actually wanted to hunt in this years archery season. Their was lots of other discussion, but they took my advice and bought a Parker model crossbow.

Well, we talked regularly about their hunting adventures and they had a blast together. Missed a few opportunities, but shared many others.

It was great hearing the excitement of the hunts. I'm really hoping this leads to me and my brother and his kids and mine hunting together. My brother and I lost our dad last year, so thinking ahead to spending more time with family has me really looking forward to the future and has gotten my mind out of thinking about junk from the past.

His son still has aspirations to hunt with a compound, but it was great seeing the fire lit no matter what the weapon.
 

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I had a blast this year with the crossbow, but I've used one in the past. this was however the first year I harvested anything with one. I will continue to use my compound also. heck if you were allowed to use a slingshot, I would give that a try. lol as long as I'm in the woods, I don't care what's in my hands. after harvesting my buck, I carried my video camera for 5 days, with 3 tags left to fill. our corn should be down tomorrow so I will be back in the stand with the compound this time. good luck to all on the rest of the season. its great to see a positive thread on this subject for once. let's all forget about the past and HUNT. and congrats to all that scored.
 

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There was a poll on the Big Game forum for about an hour. The majority of hunters that replied had positive results with crossbow hunters. Apparently someone didn't like the results and yanked it???
 

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I don't know what happened this year but I was extremely disappointed in the number of wounded and lost deer.I'm starting to think that alot more hunters should be using crossbows instead of compounds.It really pains me to admit that.
Well that was my point when the inclusion fight was going on. For a hack like me, that spined a 4pt. in 1985, and had to watch it suffer a bit, a crossbow is probably the better choice. Lets face it. Many people do not put the proper time in to get proficient enough to consistently put good archery shots on an animal. Remember, it's not hay bale shooting. Someday maybe I'll join the ranks, but for now, archery of any type still isn't my cup of tea.
 

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Originally Posted By: TanneryhuntsGreat Post Denny, I hunt with both compound and xbow and I love them both.

I've had a chance to play with a few of the newer crossbows.I agree that they're cool weapons in their own regard.They don't interest me because I love the preperation and tinkering it takes for me to use a compound.I can see why a guy would want to try one out though.

Not to mention, your name's not Denny.
 

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There was a poll on the Big Game forum for about an hour. The majority of hunters that replied had positive results with crossbow hunters. Apparently someone didn't like the results and yanked it???
That was an interesting poll, unfortunately though the comments after about page 4 or 5 went down a road we got tired of going down around here. has nothing to do to the reults. maybe we could get the survey back up without the ability to comment??

After all guys you all know it is not the Mods that ruin these threads ..


Here are the results when it was pulled , granted that first choice was likely the cause of the comments going off mark.:

There were slobs everywhere! Maiming deer, putting drives on, messing up my hunting! Aren't gonna be any bucks left for rifle season!
10%

I saw a few crossbow hunters, Had a few hunts messed up but it wasn't too bad... There will be a few less bucks for rifle season.
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I saw one or two, but they never had a hunt messed up. There should be the normal amount of bucks left for rifle season.
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Crossbows, they were legal in all of PA this year?
48%

Let's not ruin this thread now..OK?
 
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