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I'm beginning to window shop. I want to get a small concealed carry gun for EDC. I won't be purchasing until after the new year, but i like to read reviews online, go to stores and handle, etc. I have a personal like for thumb safetys, example taurus or beretta where if the safety is up-its safe, safety down or flat its ready to fire-you click it down with your thumb, and safety towards the ground returns hammer without firing. Is there a reliable, small concealed carry gun out there that has this option. I would like to stick with the 9mm caliber and want to stay under $800 out the door. But I want something reliable, small enough that I will actually EDC, and has this type of safety if possible. I have seen that S&W makes a M&P 9 compact that you can get a safety on, does anyone own one and does it work like the above mentioned safety? I appreciate all info, feedback and positive suggestions?
 

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I wonder if that is what my 9x18 mm Makarov has. If it does, it is perfectly safe.
 

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yeah octagon that's what it has, I have one. I actually carry it alot, however I wanted to get something in plain 9mm and I don't like the magazine release on my makarov, though overall the gun is so heavily built it takes a licking and keeps on ticking so to speak, quality russian craftsmanship.
 

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Steve any particular concealed carry models you recommend? I have owned Beretta's but only the full size .40. Good gun but I want a small 9mm for EDC.
 

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I was at the local gun store today to pick up some scope rings for my rifle. While there I looked over there selection. I didn't like the compact ruger. The S&W M&P 9c was there it felt kind of heavy for compact, I liked the gun but if I eventually buy one I'll probably just get the full size. I also looked at a Sig Ithink the model was 938, it was a 3 inch 9mm, didn't have the kind of safety I wanted but close. It was kind of like a mini-1911 so you would have to carry cocked and locked. Couldn't find any compact's with the safety that pushes down and decocks like a makarov or a beretta, wondering if anyone makes one? If not might have to go with the Sig, never owned one any feedback on those?
 

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If you are looking for a pistol to carry for personal protection there are some facts you need to consider.
Most modern double action pistol manufacturers, that manufacture a pistol that has what you call a safety, refer to it as a decocking lever. It's main function is to drop the hammer safely while a round still remains in the chamber.
Many have internal safeties that don't allow them to discharge unless the trigger is pulled through it's full cycle.
Simply put, with the hammer down, they are as safe to carry with the safety off as a double action revolver.
If you intend to carry a semi-automatic pistol with the safety/decocking lever engaged, you need to train extensively in the process needed to fire the pistol.
It's generally recognized that this takes a minimum of 1000 repetitions to ensure that you will react properly when your life depends on it.
 

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I believe what you are reffering to as the decocking lever is the type of safety I would like to find on a small concealable 9mm. My makarov works that way if the safety is all the way up your on safe, down and level with the barrel its on fire, press it down one more time and it decocks the gun without firing. I would like to find a gun in regular 9mm with this option.
 

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You definitely should carry what your comfortable with.
I personally wouldn't recommend that type of safety/decocking lever. I am aware of too many documented case where the safety was never disengaged when the weapon was needed for self defense to recommend carrying with the safety engaged.
 

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You definitely should carry what your comfortable with.
I personally wouldn't recommend that type of safety/decocking lever. I am aware of too many documented case where the safety was never disengaged when the weapon was needed for self defense to recommend carrying with the safety engaged.
Use the K.I.S.S. Get a good holster that covers the trigger.
 

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I am actually looking at an older model right now. Smith an Wesson 6906 in 9mm. I have found a few used on gun sites. About the size I want, safety that I like and seem to have good reviews. Anyone ever own one of these? They are an older gun, but if ain't broke don't fix it. Looked online at the Kahr, they seem like nice guns and I hear good things but I just happen to like this type of safety on guns. I own a single action 1911, I have owned glocks, taurus's, etc that are striker fired or single action and they are great guns but I just prefer this type of safety. My makarov has this just not in regular 9mm. Does anyone have any feedback on the 6906 or know of any other smaller or concealed guns with this type of safety in 9mm? Thanks guys.
 

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i carry the beretta px4 storm subcompact in 40 cal i love the up safty to fire because if i have to pull it its easier to flip safty up then down
 

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I am actually looking at an older model right now. Smith an Wesson 6906 in 9mm. I have found a few used on gun sites. About the size I want, safety that I like and seem to have good reviews. Anyone ever own one of these? They are an older gun, but if ain't broke don't fix it. Looked online at the Kahr, they seem like nice guns and I hear good things but I just happen to like this type of safety on guns. I own a single action 1911, I have owned glocks, taurus's, etc that are striker fired or single action and they are great guns but I just prefer this type of safety. My makarov has this just not in regular 9mm. Does anyone have any feedback on the 6906 or know of any other smaller or concealed guns with this type of safety in 9mm? Thanks guys.
The 6906 was a decent pistol in it's time. The safety works opposite of your Makarov. The 6906 decocking lever down is safe and up to fire. I had occasion to see a lot of them in use and saw few malfunctions that weren't shooter induced.
Usually 11-12 lb double action trigger pull and 3-4 lbs for single action.
 

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The 6906 is a traditional DA/SA auto with the annoying trigger transition.

Why not look at the Kimber solo or the Para LDA's (I know, 45 only).

The M&P can be had with the thumb safety as can the Ruger's SR9 series.
 

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I personally have the M&P 9c...w/o the thumb safety (just my preference)

It isn't the lightest piece on the block, but it doesn't make you want to stop shooting after a half a box of shells. It takes the recoil well, and feels darn good in the hand. As far as carrying, it is a great little piece. I personally carry strong side in several different holsters. hides well even under just a t-shirt. Not a pocket gun by any means, but certainly an EDC gun.
 

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I have a M&P9 w/ the safety, but in the full size. I don't know about a full time carry weapon, but as a shooter, I love it. I went back and forth about to get the safety or not, and I'm glad I got it with it.
 
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