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What do you guys recommend? I have read that a zero nitrogen is best. I have like 100lbs of 5-10-5 laying around. Can that be used or should I go buy something like 0-10-20. I'd prefer to save the money and just use what I have but I certainly don't want to cause any damage to the plot. Is this a situation where 5-10-5 will just not work as good as 0-10-20 or is it a situation where the nitrogen will harm the plot? I'm 100% new to all of this as you can tell so if this question is dumb then sorry.
 

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I think something like 0-20-20 or 0-10-20 would be better for clover, that is what I always used with good results. With adding nitrogen to clover you might promote more weeds in your plot. Clover produces its own nitrogen
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I've always put 10-20-20 on my clover mainly b/c that was the lowest nitrogen content I can get locally. I've never had any problems.

The reason you're supposed to use low to no nitrogen fertilizer is b/c clovers fix their own nitrogen and you'll be feeding any weeds with the nitrogen in your fertilizer. If this is a new plot it's good to put some nitrogen on the clover to give it a boost before it begins to fix the nitrogen on its own.
 

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i recommend bio-soil, wont burn the plants, stays in the soil for more than a year, not a chemical, and increases protein levels
 

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Thanks guys. Antler King actually recommended something with a bit of nitrogen in it for the first planting but then a 0-#-# going forward. The thing is really growing, its amazing. 4 days and basically every seed has 2 leafs popping out of it. Deer are already eating it though, not sure what to do about that yet.
 

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10-20-20 would be good for the first fert.I use 10-20-20 every year on my clover with good results.
 

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Well, ya'll ain't gonna believe this, BUT, I used 46-0-0 on my clover this year and was VERY happy with the results.

Yes, clover fixes it's own nitrogen, but, a little on top doesn't hurt much, especially if your pH is a little on the low side.

One of my hero's, Ed Spinnazola actually recommends a September application of 46-0-0 for clover. Ed ain't wrong about it. Try it, ya might like it.
 

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You think I measure? LOL

I'd say about 25 lbs of 46-0-0 to about 4/10ths of an acre.
 

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Thanks for the info dutch. I dropped some of the stuff I had laying around on it instead. Thing has been down a week and its covered in green. Had 70 some pictures in it though in 5 days. They are eating it like its the only thing in the woods. I might have to get some plot saver or something.
 

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I don't know what seed mix PCM used, but, MOST clover seed is now preinnoculated, not all, but most that I have seen. The commercial foodplot mixes are for sure.
 

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Hi - I used Antler King and it is covered in something red that is supposed to help it grow. I also sprayed the entire plot with Antler King PLOT MAX. I've got 1 inch and 2 inch plants coming up in 7 days. Green haze all over the plot. Its looking pretty good so far.
 

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I used Antler King and it is covered in something red that is supposed to help it grow.
That would be the innoculant, along with a coating of lime. If you look at the seed ingredients, you'll probably find that about 30% of the weight of the product is "seed coating". 70% or so is the actual seed.
 

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It said it would plant a half acre but I don't think I had more than a half acre and I wasn't happy with the amount of seed. Ended up adding my own red clover to it just to get enough seed down. We shall see what happens in the next 3 weeks I guess.
 

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When a bag says it will plant a "1/2 acre", that is under OPTIMUM conditions of soil prep, etc. Generally, I double it, or close to it. Not saying I'm right, but, I get better plots than my buddy that follows the directions to the letter, for the most part.
 
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