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How do you guys clean a custom longrifle muzzleloader?I know you can tap out the pins and clean in hot soapey water,but its a pain to remove the pins and it would seem like after a while of doing this the pins would start be be loose.thanks in advance
 

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I can't wait to hear the replies on this. I have a custome FL that I hate to clean because of these little pins. I do not like to take this rifle apart to clean it. On my other FL there are wedges that I drive out, lift out the barrel and scrub-a-dub-dub.
 

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Remove the lock, replace liner with correct bolt, with teflon tape applied, fill barrel with hot soapy water, rinse, repeat. Really not that hard if you think about it. While the barrel is "soaking" clean the lock with hot soapy water, rinse, and dry. Reassemble. That will be a buck 50 for the advice.
 

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I can't take out my liner Brad Emig told me when I picked up gun how to clean it and I have it down to about 15 min. Take off the lock, put a round toothpick into the touchhole then pour hot water down the barrell, let sit for a few min pour out and repeat, I normally do this 3 times. Then pour hot water into the barrell to fill it 3/4 of the way take your rod with a cleaning jag and wet patch put down barrell take out toothpick and push the hot water through the touchhole. I then run a couple of patches down it to make sure it is dry then run a patch with pure mink oil to grease the barrell. The lock I will run through hot water and depending on how many shots I put through it maybe use a toothbrush to scrub the nooks and cranys. then I will put a small amount of oil on the moving parts of the inside of the lock
 

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I remove the lock assembly and unscrew the touch hole liner. I then take a 3 foot piece of surgical tube, the flex type tubing that are used on IVs, giving blood, etc, and twist it into the touch hole. The threads will cut into the tube giving you a tight fit. I then put the other end into a pail of very hot soapy water. Soak a cleaning patch in the same soap water, then using the ram rod push the patch down the barrel all the way. When you pull the rod back toward the muzzle it will bring the solution through the tube into the barrel, don't take it all the way out or you'll loose the suction, then push the rod back down the barrel. After 3 or 4 pumps you will have all the air out of the system and only hot soapy water going into and out of the barrel. When the solution is no longer black I remove the rod and patch, disconnect the tube from the touch hole and run a couple of dry patches down the barrel. I then take a damp soapy patch and clean up any black power reside that's around the lock area or anywhere on the gun. I then wet a cleaning patch with WD-40 and run it down the barrel and wipe off the lock area with the same patch. For those of you that don't know, the WD in WD-40 stands for water dispersant, it will help remove any left over water. I then place the gun near a heat source, I use my wood stove , to dry. The lock assembly I drop into the hot soapy water pail, then clean like normal, including the WD-40. After all that you can lube how you like for storage.
The trick is to use as hot as water that you possibly can stand without burning yourself. Once the metal become hot the water will practically evaporate when you stop the cleaning process. Another useful tool is a old tooth brush to clean out all those small nooks and crannies.
 

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Brewyak, that is pretty much how I clean mine. I used to remove the pins,but I now stick a toothpick in the touch hole. The water shoots out the hole when the toothpick is removed and the remaining water is blown out with air pressure in the end of the barrel. I keep a rag close by to wipe the stock as the dirty water can leave a dark streak down the stock.
 

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Folks - that's all great advise but I think everyone missed to point, and the point, from my perspective anyhow, is how do you get arround NOT soaking the forend of the stock? On a rifle that is pinned, and not wedged, to the stock; do you drive out the pins or is ther some magical way to do the hot soapy water scrub and not ruin the forestock?
 

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All the advice given is for pinned rifles. If you do what's been advised I don't see how your stock can get "soaked". I've had my rifle a few years and have never removed the pins, there is no need to.
 

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I took a grease zert that fits my touch hole and drilled it out.Then found 2-3'clear hose that fitted VERY VERY tight on end of zert.
Remove lock.
Remove touch hole.
Insert zert with hose attached.
Put gun on bags or gun rest UP SIDE DOWN / SIDEWAYS with zert pointing down.
End of hose in bucket of soapy water.
Pump with rod.
Same for rinse.
 

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My meathod is perty much the same as Brewyak except I use room temp water down the barrel.
I know other guys that remove their barrel every time.
 

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i take my touch hole out and screw in fitting that attaches to a hose then i put the other end of the hose and put into a empty pepsi bottle filled with hot soapy water and scrub but if iam pressed for time i will use windex spray some down the barrel and some patches and scrub thats just what i do
 

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How about some of that cleaning stuff made just for black powder, I think it's called turkey tack or something (it has a picture of a turkey track on the bottle). Several passes with patches soaked in this stuff, then a few dry patches and then some bore butter seems to do well. The only time I ever took my pinned barrel off was to re-work my stock a little.
 

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I picked up a bottle of Hoppe`s #9 Black Powder Solvent and Patch Lube.Stuff works great. 4-5 patches and the Bore is clean.Doesn`t hurt the finish either. Want to try it for the shoots this Summer. I finish up with a generous dousing of WD-40 in the Barrel for storage...
 

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I use a small sprinkling can for watering flowers to pour the water in the barrel. I take a hand towel and wrap it around the end of the barrel /stock to prevent any excess water from "soaking" the end of the stock.
 

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If you use a funnel your stock will not get wet. Why use anything other than water? I has worked for hundreds of years and you don't have to go to the store to get it
 

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Pumping water will clean the breech area where the crud gets pushed.You can't get there with patches and solvents.
 

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I agree 410-er, you must pump water through the touch hole. Cleaning with patches just pushes all the crud down to the breech area. Just saw a gun that had the pins removed too many times for cleaning, I could squeeze the barrel and stock in my hand resulting in movement.

For my pinned rifles with non-removable White Lightning touch hole liners, i use a product called "E-Z Flintlock Gun Cleaner". It has a clamp with a rubber O-ring which tightens over the touchhole and a plastic tube attached to stick in a bucket of water. This allows you to pump water through the barrel and won't leak if installed correctly. I don't like a lock mortise to get wet so stuff a piece of old cotton sock in it just as a precaution.

Tried the toothpick method but could never get a tight seal, maybe I didn't have the right diameter toothpicks.
 

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I use the same system as red oak when at home but in the field I use a small spring or C clamp and a piece of inner tube to seal the touch hole. Just remove the lock and clamp the inner tube over the touchhole. Never had a single leak. Learned this the hardway years ago after the water leaked from my toothpick-stuffed touchhole on the 1st model Brown Bess down my hand rubbed linseed oil stock and ruined the finish


GBJ
 

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Ron pa said:
I picked up a bottle of Hoppe`s #9 Black Powder Solvent and Patch Lube.Stuff works great. 4-5 patches and the Bore is clean.Doesn`t hurt the finish either. Want to try it for the shoots this Summer. I finish up with a generous dousing of WD-40 in the Barrel for storage...
Doesn't smell as bad either....
 

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red oak said:
For my pinned rifles with non-removable White Lightning touch hole liners, i use a product called "E-Z Flintlock Gun Cleaner". It has a clamp with a rubber O-ring which tightens over the touchhole and a plastic tube attached to stick in a bucket of water. This allows you to pump water through the barrel and won't leak if installed correctly. I don't like a lock mortise to get wet so stuff a piece of old cotton sock in it just as a precaution.

Where can a guy find one of these and about how much??
 
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