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what are the laws when it comes to CC? can a pistol registered to me be in the glove box of my car and my wife who has a CC be able to take the car with the pistol in the glove box?
 

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Perfectly legal as long as the two of you have a LTCF.

Keep in mind, that forgetting it's there and traveling through another state, or into a "gun free" zone has the potential of getting someone into a pickle....not saying that would happen but I have heard about it. Just playing devil's advocate.

Personally, I'm not fond of leaving firearms in vehicles whether they are locked or not....JMHO, too many variables.
 

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There is no "registration" in PA. No firearm is "registered" to any person.

Since you both have a LTCF, in the situation you describe, there is no issue.
 

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pistols are absolutely registered to the individual owner. if you own any pistols law enforcement in pa knows exactly what pistols you own.
 

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No, pistols or handguns are not registered in PA.
 

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intresting, a few years ago my step daughter was having "marriage" problems, she gave me her 9mm for safe keeping, the husband claimed it was his and that I stole it. I contacted the state police(after I spoke to my attorney) about said gun, and in about 10 minutes or less the via the guns serial # told me that it was "in step daughters name" not her husband, are hand gun regestered in pa no, not any more , is there a name associated with the guns serial # ,most def.
 

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Under Pennsylvania law, firearm dealers must provide a record of the sale of handguns and certain other firearms to the Firearms Division of the Pennsylvania State Police (“PSP”), which maintains a permanent database of handgun sales
Gun registration by any name. Supporting Link
 

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pistols are absolutely registered to the individual owner. if you own any pistols law enforcement in pa knows exactly what pistols you own.
No, they are not registered to anyone! There is a transfer data base, however many in law enforcement incorrectly and illegally use it as a "registry".
 

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treedaddy said:
intresting, a few years ago my step daughter was having "marriage" problems, she gave me her 9mm for safe keeping, the husband claimed it was his and that I stole it. I contacted the state police(after I spoke to my attorney) about said gun, and in about 10 minutes or less the via the guns serial # told me that it was "in step daughters name" not her husband, are hand gun regestered in pa no, not any more , is there a name associated with the guns serial # ,most def.
Yes, there is a name associated with the serial number if the gun was bought or transferred in PA. However, because people who move to PA are not required to "register" their handguns, or handguns properly passed between certain family members; between spouses, between parents and children, between grandparents and grandchildren are not included in this data base, courts have ruled that it is not a "registry".

Bu law, it is illegal for any agency in PA to maintain a registry. Of course, this doesn't prevent many in law enforcement from illegally using it as one.
 

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I disagree with you. I could run an fs adm and find every pistol you own. pistols are in fact forever registered to the owner. im surprised a former law enforcement officer doesn't know this.
 

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I disagree with you. I could run an fs adm and find every pistol you own. pistols are in fact forever registered to the owner. im surprised a former law enforcement officer doesn't know this.
All you have is a data base of transfers that is ILLEGALLY being used as a registry.

§ 6111.4. Registration of firearms.
Notwithstanding any section of this chapter to the contrary, nothing in this chapter shall be construed to allow any government or law enforcement agency or any agent thereof to create, maintain or operate any registry of firearm ownership within this Commonwealth. For the purposes of this section only, the term “FIREARM” shall include any weapon that is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of any such weapon.
Act 1995 Special Session-17 (H.B. 110), P.L. 1024, § 6, approved June 13, 1995, eff. in 120 days.
 

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I disagree with you. I could run an fs adm and find every pistol you own. pistols are in fact forever registered to the owner.
Wrong! The database only goes back to the time when they started making MOST people transfer @ a FFL.

There were Millions of face to face purchases prior to then that were never in the database unless transferred at an FFL after the database was started.

The State Supreme Court ruled there is no registry because it does not list ALL firearms. This has not stopped PA LEOS from using it as such and firearms have been improperly confiscated when they are NOT found in the incomplete database when found during traffic stops.

A few Police Departments have found out that the guns they confiscated ended up w/ the courts making the PD pay the legal fees. Unfortunately too many have not fought the fight

Visit PAFOA.org and read back thru the numerous stories.
 

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If it is a recent firearm, purchased new, between BATF and the manufacturers and wholesalers and gun shops, the serial number can be linked to the last purchaser. If the sale was over ten years earlier, records often stop at the wholesaler.
 

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you are not allowed to sell a pistol to someone without doing a transfer. unless it comes under the family exemption.
This is now true, except it has not been in existence more than 20 years.
Also anyone moving into PA w/ firearms purchased out of state won't be in the database either.

There has to be millions of handguns not in the dabase!
 

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You couldn't be more wrong! There are people who own lawfully obtained and possess that you will never be able to find using a computer. As a former law enforcement officer I know that.
 

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in true typical fashion you are once again wrong john s. you are right in some respects but wrong in others which you will never admit. I only wish I would have been more factual in my original post which I admit I was partially wrong. in fact any pistols you have bought in the last roughly 20 years and transferred or bought through an ffl would in fact and no doubt show up as owned by you through a check in the same computer system you were privy to. you may not like it or agree with it as I don't also but it is fact. like you stated as a former wild life conservation officer and not police officer you would know this. I regret I did not mention many years back as you described that these records would not have been kept. but as you know or fail to know recent as in the last 25 years or more will definitely show exactly what pistols you own and are in fact kept on record in pa. so I am not totally wrong but in fact you are.
 
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