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California is the only state that tracks and disarms people with legally registered guns who have lost the right to own them, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris. Almost 20,000 gun owners in the state are prohibited from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, those under a domestic violence restraining order or deemed mentally unstable.
Careful what you wish for when it comes to the medical field to make the decision on gun ownership.


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Careful what you wish for when it comes to the medical field to make the decision on gun ownership.
I trust you are directing that at the Obama administration, as they are starting to fund the whole "gun violence is an epidemic" nonsense over again...

Feinstein has advocated that ANY returning veteran from Afghanistan or Iraq should be barred, put on this sort of list, because some of them may suffer from PTSD.

Imagine fighting for America to come home and be told by the police you can't own your hunting rifle any more because Diane Feinstein knows what's best for you....

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Nope...Not saying anything other than to be wary of putting decisions like this in the hands of the medical profession. That will disarm more Americans than any gun ban,magazine restriction, or much anything else Washington can come up with.
 

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Nope...Not saying anything other than to be wary of putting decisions like this in the hands of the medical profession. That will disarm more Americans than any gun ban,magazine restriction, or much anything else Washington can come up with.
And add Obamacare to the mix and you have a recipe to disarm more Americans than most thought possible.

Think of this, you go to your Doctor and tell him you are feeling depressed at times. You might soon find yourself on the outside looking in once the Government run healthcare system gets word. Most people will soon learn its better just keeping that info to yourself, including the really deranged mass murderers.

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Yep and everyone is calm and cool because they don't think they could be ruled mentally unfit for gun ownership.A slippy slippery slope. It doesn't take much at all for a psychiatrist to deem one unfit and for everyone that says your ok they could get ten more to say your not. Even if you prove your ok try and get your guns back after they take them.
 

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Nope...Not saying anything other than to be wary of putting decisions like this in the hands of the medical profession. That will disarm more Americans than any gun ban,magazine restriction, or much anything else Washington can come up with.
Oh c'mon now, lets give credit where credit is due. This wasnt happening during the last administration or in any administration before that, this has been engineered and is owned by O'jugears and his liberal gun grabber friends, lock, stock, and barrel! They brought all the pieces together, they own it!
 

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To be fair, the seeds were started w/the Clinton regime, who funneled oodles of $$$ to taxpayer funded "academic" studies that worked hard to portray gun violence as an "epidemic".

And if I recall correctly, under GW Bush that nonsense was stopped.

Now it's been resuscitated. By the Obama regime.

Like I said in another post- these Democrat political extremists have been waiting like a dormant virus to sign bills like this all their lives.

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Like I said in another post- these Democrat political extremists have been waiting like a dormant virus to sign bills like this all their lives.
You said a mouthful there.

And how obvious it became after Sandy Hook. They certinaly did a good job fooling most Americans that Biden and his little panel had just written all their nonsense only in response to that tragedy.... Yeah, ok.
 

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They certinaly did a good job fooling most Americans that Biden and his little panel had just written all their nonsense only in response to that tragedy.... Yeah, ok.
All that text was pre-written, sitting on a shelf waiting to be pulled off at the right time. The Dems have been crystal clear all along that they hate the 2A, guns and gun owners for that matter, and that they were simply waiting for the correct political timing to pull their stunts. Their own tacticians advised them that leading up to recent elections the gun issue was too divisive, don't mention it. They NEVER said they supported gun rights, they just kept mum on how much they hate gun rights.

But now that they're in office, elections are over and the "right" event happened to shift the political winds in their favor? They jumped on it. And they were ready.

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It doesn't take much at all for a psychiatrist to deem one unfit and for everyone that says your ok they could get ten more to say your not
I'd like to know what doctor or psychologist or psychiatrist given the power to ban gun ownership is going to risk their career and livelihood on NOT classifying somebody as "dangerous" if they show any sign even remotely related to anything that could be considered in some way somewhere by a team of lawyers to be an indication of future violent action.....

Then you'll have the medical professionals who simply hate guns handing out anti-gun rulings for patients as a matter of course.

What if you have a mentally ill child? Similar circumstance as in Newtown. Would they "allow" you, for example, to keep your hunting rifle, as a parent, in the same household as a kid who MIGHT exhibit violent tendencies? The kid could tie you up and torture you to get the combination to the gun safe.....

If it saves even one life...

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What if you have a mentally ill child? Similar circumstance as in Newtown. Would they "allow" you, for example, to keep your hunting rifle, as a parent, in the same household as a kid who MIGHT exhibit violent tendencies? The kid could tie you up and torture you to get the combination to the gun safe.....
Although this thread went a bit off track with Obama Care and what not your post is quite pertinent. It wouldn't matter what health plan; or no health plan the doctors will err on the side of caution.

I think the article posted mentions family members of the mentally ill and how CA handles that.

The sad part here is everyone screamed to keep the guns out of the hands of the mentally ill (think even the NRA)....and that will open the biggest can of worms there is.

Makes me think of how drunk driving laws got exploited...Megan's List...and the rest of the "preventative" stuff came about.
 

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The sad part here is everyone screamed to keep the guns out of the hands of the mentally ill (think even the NRA)....and that will open the biggest can of worms there is.
Will open?? What are you talking about? Source!!

The real problem is, where is the line drawn? Dems and Obamacare will certainly push the line, most likely crossing it. Heck, they are already crossing it.


Now is not the time to blame the NRA on their position to enforce the laws already on the books.
 

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The sad part here is everyone screamed to keep the guns out of the hands of the mentally ill (think even the NRA)....and that will open the biggest can of worms there is.
Will open?? What are you talking about? Source!!

The real problem is, where is the line drawn? Dems and Obamacare will certainly push the line, most likely crossing it. Heck, they are already crossing it.


Now is not the time to blame the NRA on their position to enforce the laws already on the books.
That line has been drawn already: and with the recent push to slow down narcotic pain prescriptions, they are promoting pain meds that work on brain receptors to trick your brain into not thinking you hurt. Sort of the same way Chantix tricks the brain on the effects of nicotine. Very mind altering stuff and why they have such radical side-effect warnings.

Not sure how it works in your area but I can guarentee around here some time during your doctor's visit you'll get asked "Do you feel like hurting yourself or anyone else?" And that's been for years now.
 
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