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Often these issues are discussed/debated on HPA so I though I might share some info. from last Falls Outdoor Life regarding harvesting BUCK success as compiled by OL readers as follows:

Calling:
Fawn Bleat 1%
Snort Wheeze 5%
Rattling 11%
Doe Bleat 12%
Combination 32%
Buck Grunt 39%

Location:
Food Plot 1%
Natural food 9%
Funnel 9%
Field Edge 26%
Travel route 37%

Scent:
Tarsal 1%
Food 2%
Curiosity 5%
Buck Urine 5%
Doe Urine 34%
Estrus 53%

Technique:
Tracking: 1%
Driving/Pushing 3%
Still-Hunting 12%
Ground Blind 14%
Spot/stalk 16%
Tree-stand 54%

Time of Day:
Midday 2%
Dawn: 5%
Early afternoon 5%
Late morning: 15%
Dusk 16%
Late Afternoon 24%
Early Morning 33%

How do they compare to your experience?
 

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Pretty much right on except I don't use scents.
 

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Pretty much right on except I don't use scents.
I think scents are similar to fishing lures they work sometimes.
 

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Everything is right on with me but by far the most effective call to bring in a white tail buck is snort weeze!
 

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Everything is right on with me but by far the most effective call to bring in a white tail buck is snort weeze!
Perhaps the snort weeze may not rate as high because it just may not be used as much. I for one have never used it, but many of the others have produced results on occasion.

But if you say it work; perhaps I will try it next year given the right circumstances.
 

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This is all pretty much dead on for me this year, and most years as well.

This years buck came right into my grunts. I use a HS true talker. I mainly use buck grunts and doe bleats though. Sometimes ill use them in sequence during the rut. Ive never had any good luck rattling or snort wheezing in the past. ive only used snort wheeze as a last ditch effort and have scared every buck to high heavens with it. I know they work at certain times, but in my opinion a buck has to be in a special mood for them to work and therefore are far less effective than the grunt and doe bleat. I cant stress enough though, that over calling throughout the season is extremely detrimental to your odds of success. I take my call with me, but i never use it until the 4th week of archery and i start off using it sparingly.

I shot this years buck in a travel corridoor, but stand locations are almost always on some kind of travel route. Food plots rarely produce past the first week during daylight and i dont like to burn out a good food source.

As far as scent goes i didnt do my usual mock scrape and scent routine this year. I tried thems in a few places and it seemed to push the deer away from those locations for a while until i took them down. The only scents i ended up using this year was buck urine and estrous. During the rut, a quality estrous is hard to beat. A few squirts of buck urine in a natural scrape is effective to.

Ive killed every buck from a treestand except for 2, and i got those 2 spot and stalk style. This years buck was out of my most productive treestand. I dont even hunt this spot till the last two weeks of archery and i always see good action in it. I try to put a minimum of 15' between me and the ground. I have one stand that is only about 12' up though.

Hands down best time for me is early morning but late afternoon is almost as good. My buck this year was shot about 715am. It gets too hot in late morning and midday in archery anymore and in my opinion takes too long to cool off towards late afternoon which is probably why i think morning is better. Deer do move during midday though no matter what temp it is but they have to be able to move about feeling somewhat undetected. A buck thats been spooked a few times during the season is less apt to do so in my experience.
 

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Only 3% for driving/pushing? Must not be popular other places, I bet that number is a lot higher in PA. I don't agree with driving deer but it is what it is.
 

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I have shot deer which have come into and put their nose against estrus scent dispensers. However that has been 15 years or so past. More recently they come into 10-15 yards of the placed scent and stare at it. Still there are the ones that come into the area, but show no signs of acknowledging the scent whatsoever. Then there are the ones that just pass by. I have observed all of this using some of the same type scents. It should be noted than the vast majority of my scent use is after the third Saturday of Oct. or later.

Timing and buck attitude are important.

I have never used the snort wheeze call however, I have taken (2) 8 point bucks in archery which came into a scrape making in the call.
 

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I have only ever seen one PA buck actually snort wheeze. For that reason I used it very sparingly only on mature bucks that have already committed to going away from me. Kind of a "hail mary" tactic.

In the part of Illinois I hunt, I see bucks of all ages and size do it from forkies to monsters so I use it a bit more often.


I'd also bet that driving accounts for far more deer killed in PA than a mere 3%.
 

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I have only ever seen one PA buck actually snort wheeze. For that reason I used it very sparingly only on mature bucks that have already committed to going away from me. Kind of a "hail mary" tactic.

In the part of Illinois I hunt, I see bucks of all ages and size do it from forkies to monsters so I use it a bit more often.


I'd also bet that driving accounts for far more deer killed in PA than a mere 3%.
The charts references bucks only. I would assume a lot of doe are shot during drives. Bucks??
 

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I would think the results would tell more if there was a "none" choice for calls and scents, as many don't use any. Also open woods for a location for folks that just pick out a hillside and sit.

It is interesting though.
 
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