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Has anybody got any yet??? I am thinking of getting either a dozen of those or a dozen Coon Dagger...
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ordering some tomorrow. mtp.com
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Looks like a good trap...
http://www.minntrapprod.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=258_396&products_id=6573
http://www.minntrapprod.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=258_396&products_id=6573
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They look easier to set, I wonder how strong their springs are?
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Thanks!Snapper said:
Let me start this off with saying I’ve been a Bridger fan for years. I replaced all my foot holds in early 2000-2002 with Bridger #2’s then I modified them and never looked back. Looking at the price Bridger’s selling their D/P’s for at Minnesota Trapping Supplies it was a no brainer for me.
However, after receiving them I sent them back. The only thing I liked about them was the stake, chain, and swivels. Which you can get similar quality from any other D/P on the market. The cylinder is rolled steel and then pressed together kind of like you would dove tail wood. I understand it coon trapping but it seemed to be a cutting corners more than I would like to have seen. They used a bolt and a nut to assemble pan/trigger assembly. Again coon trapping here, but I can see the nut coming off and having to repair the trap prior to resetting it. I could push on the bolt with my thumb and flex it. I’m not saying they had weak springs on them because they were not weak. But they seemed to be easier to set than other D/P’s. Like I said, not bad, but a little less quality. They just cut too many corners for me. They may be the correct purchase for you and your line. For me I’ll spend a few more dollars for a higher quality trap in hopes of fewer problems on the line.
I’m going to look at the Z-Traps and Duke. I got burnt in the late 1990’s on Duke Traps which left a bad taste in my mouth for their products. I fully understand that they worked out their design issues. But I’m still salty over the poor purchase none the less.
However, after receiving them I sent them back. The only thing I liked about them was the stake, chain, and swivels. Which you can get similar quality from any other D/P on the market. The cylinder is rolled steel and then pressed together kind of like you would dove tail wood. I understand it coon trapping but it seemed to be a cutting corners more than I would like to have seen. They used a bolt and a nut to assemble pan/trigger assembly. Again coon trapping here, but I can see the nut coming off and having to repair the trap prior to resetting it. I could push on the bolt with my thumb and flex it. I’m not saying they had weak springs on them because they were not weak. But they seemed to be easier to set than other D/P’s. Like I said, not bad, but a little less quality. They just cut too many corners for me. They may be the correct purchase for you and your line. For me I’ll spend a few more dollars for a higher quality trap in hopes of fewer problems on the line.
I’m going to look at the Z-Traps and Duke. I got burnt in the late 1990’s on Duke Traps which left a bad taste in my mouth for their products. I fully understand that they worked out their design issues. But I’m still salty over the poor purchase none the less.
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Interesting to see what snapper has to say about his 4 dozen.
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Dont you mean snapperCallmaker60 said:
I talked to a rep from MTP they were 100% confident in the Bridger D/P traps and the product testing that was done. I’ve used MTP for years and they’re great people and a quality place to order from. I’m sure everything will be fine with them. For me, I just cannot get past what seems like to many corners being cut.
I’ve been emailing with Neil from the ztrap company for me, that’s were I’m putting my money at. They’re coming out with a new crossfire trap and eliminating their push/pull trigger design. It’s a little more money for the crossfire $150.00 a dozen but for me that seem like the best use of my money. They still have the push/pull triggers if you are interested but they will not be making anymore once the crossfire trap our out.
I hope this helps.
I’ve been emailing with Neil from the ztrap company for me, that’s were I’m putting my money at. They’re coming out with a new crossfire trap and eliminating their push/pull trigger design. It’s a little more money for the crossfire $150.00 a dozen but for me that seem like the best use of my money. They still have the push/pull triggers if you are interested but they will not be making anymore once the crossfire trap our out.
I hope this helps.
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Can you explain what the cross fire trap is or how it works?Snapper said:
They are going to eliminate there push/pull trigger from their product line and replace it with what they are calling a crossfire trigger. I would think there would be both pro’s and con’s to the push/pull triggers such as toe catches if you have too much bait in your trap. I’m getting off of the tack from the question.
The crossfire trigger will not be push or pull; the trap will be fired form right to left movement of the trigger. Their theory behind this is the coon will have its paw buried in the trap to its furthest possible point pulling the bait out prior to the trap going off. If the coon has it paw in the trap pulling the bait from underneath the trigger/past the trigger its paw would then be at the deepest point in the trap prior to it firing.
They will be at both the P.T.A. and N.T.A. conventions. I do not work for them or know them I’m just going off of information I received while inquiring about information prior to making a purchase. Is it good/bad, that is for you to decide but it is another way of building them. I think I’m going to hit a convention and take a closer look prior to making a purchase of 4 or more dozen traps.
The crossfire trigger will not be push or pull; the trap will be fired form right to left movement of the trigger. Their theory behind this is the coon will have its paw buried in the trap to its furthest possible point pulling the bait out prior to the trap going off. If the coon has it paw in the trap pulling the bait from underneath the trigger/past the trigger its paw would then be at the deepest point in the trap prior to it firing.
They will be at both the P.T.A. and N.T.A. conventions. I do not work for them or know them I’m just going off of information I received while inquiring about information prior to making a purchase. Is it good/bad, that is for you to decide but it is another way of building them. I think I’m going to hit a convention and take a closer look prior to making a purchase of 4 or more dozen traps.
Snapper, you can do what you want. It's your money. Perhaps it's the Pennsylvania Dutch in me that says if I wanted to try this new DP trap I would buy 6 of them, a half dozen, and use them at sure-fire coon locations next season under a variety of conditions to see how they perform before investing in 4 dozen.
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thanks for explaining how they fireSnapper said:
OldMink, you’re wise, wiser than I. My bubby does ADC/pest control work. We’re going to run them all summer, we’ve a couple different ideas that we would like to test with them. Prior to trapping season we should have a pretty solid idea of what’s hot and what’s not. After we get a couple months of running them I’ll have a more educated opinion on them.
Longear, you’ll get no argument from me there.
Longear, you’ll get no argument from me there.
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i just dont see what the "crossfire" trigger would have over the ring triggers in the daggers and my duke DP's...if a coons foot is in the trap far enough to even push that trigger down to set the trap off its caught and there for you in the AM...unless you get a pull out from tangles or something like that....and i dont see any advantage of this new trigger...a coon can only stick its foot so deep in a DP till it hits bottom...and i dont feel 1/2 inch is going to make any difference...
Exactly, but you are comparing logic and marketing. Look at how many people spend money on someone else marketing ability and not necessarily the better end result. I’m not saying it is a good idea or bad idea, but you get no argument from me. I think the push/pull triggers were great for marketing. But I think there are some issues with premature firing of the D/P traps with push/pull triggers depending upon how you bait your traps. But they sold a lot of traps to trappers.
Neil from the ztrap company seemed like a real nice guy, a trapper trying to make a living, shoot him an email he’ll know more about than I/we will. The reasoning behind his madness. Is the crossfire trigger any better than the pull triggers, 6 of one half a dozen of the other. But I do not think it is any worse either. But if you look at the big picture, he has a patent on it, raised his prices from $139.00 a dozen to $150.00 a dozen, it is a win, win for him.
If you are looking for the ztraps with the push pull triggers at 139.00 a dozen get them while they last.
Neil from the ztrap company seemed like a real nice guy, a trapper trying to make a living, shoot him an email he’ll know more about than I/we will. The reasoning behind his madness. Is the crossfire trigger any better than the pull triggers, 6 of one half a dozen of the other. But I do not think it is any worse either. But if you look at the big picture, he has a patent on it, raised his prices from $139.00 a dozen to $150.00 a dozen, it is a win, win for him.
If you are looking for the ztraps with the push pull triggers at 139.00 a dozen get them while they last.
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