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Being a new reloader, I have learned a lot from reading posts here. The bullet debate has been one of the most interesting and informative ones I have read since I started reloading. The next component I need to start stocking up on is brass and I was wondering what brands you guys like or dislike. I am more concerned with the higher quality stuff than the cheap stuff as I've been using my once fired factory brass I saved since I started shooting as a kid. The cartridges I will be shopping for are 22-250, 300wsm, 280, and 7mm-08.
 

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I been using winchester & remington brass for many years without issues. I read some bad reviews on these 2 factory brass cartridges, only thing i can think of there not doing something right?

I will not pay twice as much for higher end brass when i am just fine with the Winchester and Remington brass. I reload 223, 243, 6mm, 284, 308. I don't reload max loads. I stay a grain or 2 below the max.
 

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I use Nosler when I can get a deal on it.

Otherwise I use Winchester or Hornady.

The biggest difference with the higher cost brass is consistency. By this, I mean the capacity and actual weight of the case are much more consistent.

I've weighed Nosler brass vs Hornady and Winchester and the Nosler is significantly more consistent both in the weight of the empty case and in the water case capacity. Much more consistent.

Winchester is ok. It needs work to be useful. Usually have some really badly dinged cases in a given bag of WW brass, and they all have to be sized and the necks cleaned up. Hornady is similar.

The only bad issue I had with Winchester was with 300wsm brass and splitting necks.... Some on the first firing and many on the second. I have 100pcs of WW for my 270 and it's working pretty well.

My main issue for any rifle is consistency. I don't mix brands for a given rifle. Period. Whatever I have, I get enough of that brand or buy more of the same. I am adamant for my rifles about that. No mix'n'match for me.

Other than that, I will go Norma/Nosler if I catch a sale, then Hornady, then Winchester. I don't use Remington. I've never had a need to do so.
 

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Lapua and Norma are probably the best on the market, but in most instances they are overkill for the average guy. If your using it in a varmint gun its probably worth the extra money. Nosler has a really nice product, but I use Remington in most of my hunting rifles. I'm not real fond of Winchester
 

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I should add, the reason I am considering buying some higher end brass is I've had necks cracking after 2 reloads on a few of my federal brass. Is this common on lower end cases to only get 3 shots out of it?
 

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Sekora said:
I should add, the reason I am considering buying some higher end brass is I've had necks cracking after 2 reloads on a few of my federal brass. Is this common on lower end cases to only get 3 shots out of it?
Cracked necks are generally result of work hardened brass and need to be annealed and or re-annealed.
A few indications, if you almost rip the press of the bench pulling an expander back through, inconsistent shoulder bump and inconsistent seating depths..its past time. Its also the downfall when lubing the inside of the necks so they size easier, it masks work hardened brass.

A quick dirty way to check? Using a pliers gently press the neck out of round a little bit. If it springs back it needs annealed, if it stays out you're good to go. Some brass may need annealed when new while others might go a couple loading-firing cycles.

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Higher end brass is more expensive for a reason.

It's worth it.

I use Winchester, Remington, Starline and Hornady brass for everything........except one Weatherby chambering that offers only two choices...... Norma or Weatherby (made by Norma) brass.

At $2.50-$3.00 each, brass are pretty dear. But my initial handful of 10 casings which I used (over and over and over and over.......) to develop loads are STILL in good shape with tight primer pockets. I was NOT developing reduced loads. All were right to the ragged edge of Weatherby factory performance and one even beyond. The high quality brass just keeps going.

Another thing I noticed is that there's no need to clean and uniform the flash holes on the good stuff. You can run the cutter in there if you want. But, unlike the cheaper casings, nothing's gonna be coming out.
 

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These days it's beggers can't be real Choosey, some cartridges are impossible to find...other than factory loads. I haven't seen a 50 bag of rem & win in some cartridges for a long time...now .300 rum is scarce and long rangers are going crazy..if you find Lapua in your cartridge buy it, lots of it !!
 

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These days it's beggers can't be real Choosey, some cartridges are impossible to find...
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Except MOST cartridges are hard to find.

I fail to understand how Winchester and Remington........two giants......can be pumping out bulk 9mm, 40 S&W, 45 ACP and 223 ammo by the barrel, but can't seem to make 22 LR or component brass......

Brass for a couple of the rifles I load for is going on the secondary market for $4/each !! And these aren't way out in left field casings either.

It's mind boggling.......
 

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Have any of you guys ever used the Nosler Blemished cases from shooters pro shop? Seems like a really good deal if they really are just cosmetic and will not affect performance.
 

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6-DASHER said:
These days it's beggers can't be real Choosey, some cartridges are impossible to find...other than factory loads. I haven't seen a 50 bag of rem & win in some cartridges for a long time...now .300 rum is scarce and long rangers are going crazy..if you find Lapua in your cartridge buy it, lots of it !!
I didn't know the 300 rum was scarce haven't shot my 338 enough lately to have to worry about it.
 

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Yeah, it's driving guys nuts trying to find Remington casings. As crazy as it sounds I was looking through the clearance casings and they had .338rum listed, not sure if their still there but you might want to check, in the future I'd say yours will be next to impossible to find, unless you want to buy factory loads and they'll be one $100.00 a box shortly, another seasonal item nonsense. Nosler and maybe Hornady have .300 rum I think, but long range bangers already have everything set up for the Remington cases and are not liking the other manufacturers casings from what I've heard and read. A trip up to Williamsport will show you how desperate guys are with wanted sighns at every table. And any of the RUM's are great bangers and are among the faster at each caliber, hopefully the owners will be able to shoot them, can't imagine what 10-20 years will bring !
 

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"Another thing I noticed is that there's no need to clean and uniform the flash holes on the good stuff. You can run the cutter in there if you want. But, unlike the cheaper casings, nothing's gonna be coming out."

That is why I prefer Lapua and Norma.
 

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Have any of you guys ever used the Nosler Blemished cases from shooters pro shop? Seems like a really good deal if they really are just cosmetic and will not affect performance.

I use that and their bullets. No issues. Never even saw any noticeable differences with stuff off the retail shelf. I weighed bullets and brass I've gotten from SPS and I can't find any real issue with any of it. I use it a lot, and buy most of my components from there when I see it available.
 
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