If I didn't make the shot I'd have a hard time believing it, but 2 seasons ago I shot a huge gobbler at maybe 8 yards out of my Dbl Bull with a 60# Carbon Element with 3 blade Grim Reaper head. Broadside hit at wing butt. Bird tumbled for several yards, arrow did not pass thru. I was amazed as I saw the bird tumbling and the arrow flopping. Made it to high vegetation and GONE. Never to be seen again. The sound aty impact was amazing, far louder than any deer strike I've heard while bow hunting. To this day I am still amazed that the bird stopped the arrow
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