I am normally not one to report things, or be a rat as some may say. After reading many posts on here about doing the right thing and reporting violations, I decided I would try to do the right thing and call in a poaching incident. I called the appropriate regional office this week with a pretty much cut and dry case, provided names, addresses, date, location, even hard photographic evidence that would of Definetly lead to a guilty verdict. The dispatcher was not very pleasant, and I was told that the local wco would call me, never received a call, I know they're busy this time of year, buy there's no way anyone is that busy they can't make a 5 minute phone call. They were not even interested in me sending an email of the evidence. I'm pretty disgusted to say the least, I take my time out to report something and don't even get a call back. I've heard the sane thing from a couple other hunters this year, didn't believe it until I experienced it myself. Btw, this involved multiple big game animals being taken.
Blew the whistle, but to no avail!
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That's sad, they preach report poaching, then take little or no action.
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Call back and ask to talk to a supervisor or WCO, don't take no for an answer, you will get results. Call another office if you are stonewalled by a "person with poor attitude", the best thing you can do to oe of those yahoo's is put them in their place.
I might have a change of heart and try it again Monday, but don't feel I should have to. I can't be caught on my phone at work, and wasted my lunch time sneaking outside to make the call! If I hear nothing, I will post the picture in this site, and you will see how easy of a bust it could of been.
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Happed to us as well...
Called WCO that gave us his card, and said to call with any problems. Actually told not to call DWCO I have grown up with knowing(even gave me my HTE course as a kid). Well, the WCO couldn't care less about poached trophy buck! Said not too much the could do! Was overly concerned about atvs on SGL though! Told us to call him back if we experienced any problems with 4 wheelers....
Needless to say VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!!
Next call was to local DWCO (same one told not to call) everyone knows in the surrounding counties....45 minutes later poached buck head was on my poarch being 'showed off' and the fines and paperwork were in the making!!!!
Some guys wear the green to make a difference, seems others wear it to compensate for whatever and make enemies...
Keep trying, hopefully you get the help you need!!!
Called WCO that gave us his card, and said to call with any problems. Actually told not to call DWCO I have grown up with knowing(even gave me my HTE course as a kid). Well, the WCO couldn't care less about poached trophy buck! Said not too much the could do! Was overly concerned about atvs on SGL though! Told us to call him back if we experienced any problems with 4 wheelers....
Needless to say VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!!
Next call was to local DWCO (same one told not to call) everyone knows in the surrounding counties....45 minutes later poached buck head was on my poarch being 'showed off' and the fines and paperwork were in the making!!!!
Some guys wear the green to make a difference, seems others wear it to compensate for whatever and make enemies...
Keep trying, hopefully you get the help you need!!!
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If you get rebuffed at the Region Office (Dispatcher, Law Enforcement Supervisor, Region Director), you do have other options:
1. The PGC Commissioner who represents your area.
2. PGC in Harrisburg.
3. Political intervention, e.g. your representatives, Senator Alloway's office, others.
If your story is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, then the conversation you had with the Dispatcher is not acceptable.
1. The PGC Commissioner who represents your area.
2. PGC in Harrisburg.
3. Political intervention, e.g. your representatives, Senator Alloway's office, others.
If your story is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, then the conversation you had with the Dispatcher is not acceptable.
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R.W.J is talking about calls to the Region Office, not cell phones.WADMAN said:
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Call today....don't wait till Monday. If you hear nothing...call for a supervisor. Do not stop calling.
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You are not a rat but a concerned sportsman. I get so tired of people with such attitudes on the phone. There are plenty of people that would love to have such a job and be very responsible at it .Sounds like the person answering the phones thinks that their job is quite safe.You will get action if you get to the right people . Then find out who the original call went to and get them out of a postion they are not qualified for . Best of luck . We should all be so much a watchdog .
It could be the investigation has started and the WCO will call at a later date.Perhaps for more info or to update or thank you.I have been too busy to make a 5 minute phone call before.The WCO may have 10-15 "5" minute calls to make.There are quite a few legitimate reasons the WCO didn't call you yet.
I suspect the game commission is not overstaffed with personel. I'm sure they put in the most time on the job, when gun season is in effect for the two weeks.
All outside personnel think they are alone and at the top of the complaint list.
With over 600,000 hunters roaming Penn's Woods, the job of control becomes overwhelming.
All outside personnel think they are alone and at the top of the complaint list.
With over 600,000 hunters roaming Penn's Woods, the job of control becomes overwhelming.
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