[007hunter]

Anyone shoot Blackhorn 209 without magnum primers? I picked up a jug of BH 209 today and didnt realize that it was recommended to shoot magnum primers with it. I'd rather not have to go buy new primers as I picked up a new box of CCI 209 muzzeloading primers a few weeks ago. I'll be shooting it out of a TC Impact btw. Thoughts?

 

[DCabets28]

I use regular shotgun 209 primers. I don't remember them saying anything about magnum primers JUST not to use 209 muzzleloader primers.
BTW...I have no problem with my Winchester shotgun primers with my Blackhorn powder in my LHR Redemption.
Good luck
Dave

 

[lynxone]

I use Federal 209a primers. Here is info;

http://www.blackhorn209.com/2011/10/which-primer-is-best-for-igniting-blackhorn-209/

 

[Six-Gun]

BH209 is an absolutely excellent powder. I never knew what accuracy and power were until I ditched the Triple 7 and went with BH209 for good. However, BH209 needs a good pressure spike to get it going or it WILL fail to ignite properly and do a slow "woosh" that will gently push the bullet out of the bore without a big bang. I only had it happen once when I experimented with soft-seating a bullet over the powder to see how it impacted accuracy...
Yeah...don't do that or you'll end up with a perfectly intact muzzleloader bullet sitting on the ground about 10 yards in front of you and quiet belch of fire behind it.

Bottom line: as long as you seat the bullet good and hard on the powder (i.e. a tight enough fit to spike the pressure in the chamber properly), you should be fine with standard primers.

 

[Mark Ramela]

I use Winchester 209 primers in my inline with Blackhorn powder. I'll never go back to pyrodex or Triple 7. Better accuracy and less mess for sure.

 

[richdeerht]

With BH209, I use either Federal 209 or CCI 209 magnum primers, as I think they're more reliable in cold weather. As inexpensive as a box of primers is, I think it's cheap insurance.

 

[Six-Gun]

With BH209, I use either Federal 209 or CCI 209 magnum primers, as I think they're more reliable in cold weather. As inexpensive as a box of primers is, I think it's cheap insurance.

No doubt about it, a magnum primer is good, cheap insurance to ensure reliable ignition. I was hurting for a bit during the ammo shortage, as CCI 209M primers got scare in a hurry. Once things recovered, I bought a brick of 'em. That should hold me down well for a long time.

 

[little antlers]

is BH209 a loose powder or is it pellets ?

 

[Mark Ramela]

Loose powder

 

[007hunter]

So I went to the range real quick this morning. I ended up not getting the magnum primers and used regular CCI 209 muzzeloaders primers and had no issue with ignition in the handful of shots I took. So for now I'll use what I got until I got the time to buy and play with the magnum primers. The BH 209 shrunk my groups to a little over 2 inches and provided the consistency I was looking for. That was the biggest issue with triple 7, the consistency just wasnt there to my liking. Lastly, now this probably needs more testing, but it appears that when I swabbed after a few shots the next shot would hit a couple inches high. A clean barrel group was under a inch. I left with a dirty barrel though and am leaving it dirty until after the early season. The grouping when dirty is plenty good to kill deer even though I would like to see the 'clean group size'. In the event I would need a follow up shot I don't want to have to swab before the next shot or else leave it dirty and be wondering where exactly the next bullet was going. Thats what I have to report, so take it with a grain of salt. More shooting is needed to really confirm all this but I'm confident in the gun for this coming weekend and thats what matters most at the moment.

 

[Six-Gun]

Sounds great all around. What distance were you shooting at? Don't be afraid to experiment up or down 10 gr. of powder within the limits of safety. In my T/C Omega, 110 gr. of BH209 will put up 2" groups at 50 yards, but go up *or* down 10 gr. and the groups go down to about 0.5" at the same distance.

 

[Spirit Bear]

Just got back from Utah where I killed a mile deer buck at 205 yds with blackthorn 209. I use regular 209 primers. They say NOT to use muzzleloader primers

 

[007hunter]

I was shooting at 100 yds.

 

[Six-Gun]

That's definitely admirable performance at 100 yards. Try doing the 10 grains-up/10 grains-down thing I mentioned earlier (provided you aren't maxed out for the higher load) and see how she does. I have found very notable differences in group size with just small of an increase or decrease. At the end of the day, however, you're getting more than capable groups, as is.