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i can not understand the ignorance and stupidity being displayed here. If you have nothing to hide, is what the communist count on. no questions asked complicity...
Largely why we are having this discussion to begin with. Many will lay down on their back and offer their neck to the wolves without so much as a whimper.
 

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So what is the problem showing ID to buy ammo? As long as the background check is free and quick I do not have a problem with it. Do you?
Temp holds can be placed in a background system for those arrested and charged which is fine as long as the system corrects when charges that warrant a buy stop are dropped or dismissed.
Like I said once convicted the system could be updated before anyone leaves the courthouse.
As far as your example of someone arrested for a crime, ( in your example it was child porn) I stand firm that we are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That is why a jury or judge will claim you guilty or not guilty and never say you are innocent of a crime. We are all innocent until proven otherwise. Why would you want to prevent a innocent person from buying ammo? Why would you want to have someone lose a job until proven guilty?

I just don't understand your concept. Yes the ID is to identify you and the background check is to see if you are allowed to purchase ammo. What am I missing? Waugh!
I have no problem showing id as I have to already. I will not pay for a background check for ammo. The question is what problem are we trying to solve with a background check? Illegal weapons do not get purchased at the store and adding ammo to the list will only be the same. Putting more controls on law abiding citizens does not solve the criminal side. We have enough rules in place already that apparently do not work. Think back to the last few years and how hard it has been to get ammo. Supply issues. Democrat comes into office and.gun sales go through the roof due to fear. Ammo hoarding happens. If we are all innocent until proven guilty then why the need for the background check? Again what problem do they think they are solving?
 

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I have no problem showing id as I have to already. I will not pay for a background check for ammo. The question is what problem are we trying to solve with a background check? Illegal weapons do not get purchased at the store and adding ammo to the list will only be the same. Putting more controls on law abiding citizens does not solve the criminal side. We have enough rules in place already that apparently do not work. Think back to the last few years and how hard it has been to get ammo. Supply issues. Democrat comes into office and.gun sales go through the roof due to fear. Ammo hoarding happens. If we are all innocent until proven guilty then why the need for the background check? Again what problem do they think they are solving?
Again. This is not how to frame this debate. It’s not about solving any problems. It’s incremental disarmament.
 

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cop killer bullets are anything that can penetrate a ballistics vest. think about that for a moment and then realize what that means for hunting.

no high power rifles, no shotgun slugs, basically and deer caliber aka center fire rifle ammo and a host of handgun calibers as well. THINK ABOUT IT !!
cop killer bullets is just more BS from Dumbocrats, if they were really concerned about the police they wouldn’t have defunded them.
 

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Not everyone should have a case of beer, and that is evident by the number of DUI accidents and deaths, so everyone shouldn't be able to buy booze. This is another reach and grab for no reason other than to get to the final goal, disarming the public or we would see this same logic applied across the board for everything.
 

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Not everyone should have guns. That's evident from the mass shootings. And if that's the case, not everyone should be able to buy ammo.
using that logic. lots of folks shouldnt be able to drive or own vehicles either. just like BP said....apply it across the board. its much easier to hold people accountable than restrict things or make it harder to buy or track purchases because someone MAY do something.

how about we let the police keep all our guns and ammo. then when we want to go hunting, we go sign out the gun and 5 rounds of ammo. the gunn will have a gps chip embedded so they will know where we are with the gun. if we vary from the route, they descend upon us and arrest us. at the end of the day we have to turn them in and account for every shot fired.
 

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While were at playing the communist, nazi, sociialist "what people shouldn't have"....guess people 67 and older should re-apply for driving license by taking the driving test over...many of those people drive on the roads that shouldn't....heck make it a 15 year cyclical requirement of ALL who want to get and keep a drivers license. FAIL and Take their drivers license away and give them a State ID....they can still vote by flashing it.
 

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Criminals don’t have background checks when they’re purchasing guns out of someone’s CRACKHOUSE or do they have difficulty buying numerous boxes of shells out of a trunk of a car. We have laws which they don’t enforce now and they want more laws to prevent this from occurring start putting these thugs away that walk the streets with records that are repeat offenders because they don’t care about the law…
 

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And this is exactly why these laws creep in. Folks like this that are complacent and complicit in the erosion of our freedoms. It is the result of political indoctrination and milquetoast attitudes.

Regardless whether I have anything to hide or not, it’s my business what I do. May the police search your home at will? If you’ve nothing to hide, why not? Should the government demand you I stall a breath machine in your car just to make sure you don’t drive drunk even though you have never been charged with the crime in your life? You show ID to vote so as not to corrupt the voting process by voting more than once, not being eligible, not because you might be a criminal.

this country is doomed because of attitudes exactly like this. It’s ignorant, obtuse and reflects a poor understanding of the founding of our republic and the principles on which it is based. People vote for politicians they seem as common sense and easy. Then wonder what the **** happened.
umm. This isn’t anything to do with being able to hunt or shoot recreationally. You have no right to hunt or recreationally target shoot. You only have a right to bear arms in self defense and defense against tyranny.

again and again the same narrow minded views emerge.
Wake up folks. The left, they’re communists. They want to disarm the populace at any chance. It stands in their way. Every gun law ever enacted was designed to incrementally disarm the citizenry. Communism is a long game and anyone who cannot see this is playing along.
Buy ammo. As much as you can. Reload for it as much as you can. Store it. Stockpile it and pray a call to arms never comes. Because as soon as you give it up, that’s when you’ll need it.
i havent shown my ID to vote as the people at the polls know me. as for being called to arms, that is why we have the military. when the 2nd amendment was written the people were the militia. that no longer applies. most people only read the part of the 2nd amendment that says right to bear arms. read the whole thing.
 

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Im glad you are not a lawyer as I think your interpretation is way off. Target shooting is not a sport. Sport. Where is training spelled out in the constitution on the second amendment? What are the reasons we all enjoy these shooting sports for many reasons? I can bear arms so I can shoot my arms correct? You really make no sense with your militia nonsense.
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Lots nonsense about a lot of areas as well.
 
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