They do that because their policy is to check everyone. they’ve got auditors that spot check them anonymously. It’s not they are stupid.
Background check for ammo
Here we go. Hard enough finding ammo last hunting season, now we may have to furnish ID and a background check for all ammo, if this passes?
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Pennsylvania lawmakers propose ID, background check requirement for ammunition
HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) – Two Pennsylvania lawmakers are proposing background checks and ID requirements to purchase ammunition. State Senators Art Haywood (D-Montgomery/Philadelphia) and John…
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This will go nowhere but this state is marching closer and close to where these will eventually be the norm.
Disarming the population is a necessary step for the implementation of communism.
Disarming the population is a necessary step for the implementation of communism.
There’s not much to move away to. The great western states are being invaded by liberals fleeing California and the PNW. They bring their political ideas with them.
Our state is being controlled by Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. The sprawling suburbs of each are liberalizing once conservative areas.
The nation is dying. There’s nothing to stop it. The inevitable end to all great societies. Stock ammo, hardware and hope that a call to arms never comes.
Our state is being controlled by Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. The sprawling suburbs of each are liberalizing once conservative areas.
The nation is dying. There’s nothing to stop it. The inevitable end to all great societies. Stock ammo, hardware and hope that a call to arms never comes.
Careful....should execute cop killers.
Elevating the value of the kings soldiers over that of the peasants?
Also an ammo background check acts as a defacto gun registry.
And this is exactly why these laws creep in. Folks like this that are complacent and complicit in the erosion of our freedoms. It is the result of political indoctrination and milquetoast attitudes.as i have said before, if you have done nothing wrong, what are you worried about. anymore you want people to show drivers license to vote so why is this any different. as for charging for the background check, i dont agree with that. if they want to do a background check it should be on retailer selling the ammo. have they figured out how long it will take to do background checks for ammo and how many sales they will lose because of the time a customer will have to wait. i have no problem showing my ID to buy ammo. i remember back when you had to show ID if you bought ammo that could be used in both rifle and handguns.
Regardless whether I have anything to hide or not, it’s my business what I do. May the police search your home at will? If you’ve nothing to hide, why not? Should the government demand you I stall a breath machine in your car just to make sure you don’t drive drunk even though you have never been charged with the crime in your life? You show ID to vote so as not to corrupt the voting process by voting more than once, not being eligible, not because you might be a criminal.
this country is doomed because of attitudes exactly like this. It’s ignorant, obtuse and reflects a poor understanding of the founding of our republic and the principles on which it is based. People vote for politicians they seem as common sense and easy. Then wonder what the **** happened.
umm. This isn’t anything to do with being able to hunt or shoot recreationally. You have no right to hunt or recreationally target shoot. You only have a right to bear arms in self defense and defense against tyranny.as i reload for all my firearms and have been a reloading supplies packrat for years, i,m good to go for the rest of my hunting-shooting life. if you don,t reload you will pay the price. if limited to one rifle it would be a 30-06 and pack in case-bullets in 125-150-180 grain weight and primers-powder. then you would be ready for ground hog-deer-bear in pa.
again and again the same narrow minded views emerge.
Wake up folks. The left, they’re communists. They want to disarm the populace at any chance. It stands in their way. Every gun law ever enacted was designed to incrementally disarm the citizenry. Communism is a long game and anyone who cannot see this is playing along.
Buy ammo. As much as you can. Reload for it as much as you can. Store it. Stockpile it and pray a call to arms never comes. Because as soon as you give it up, that’s when you’ll need it.
If it isn’t in there then it doesn’t exist. That’s partly the reason civilian militias were formed and the establishment of the NRA so as to provide an organized and legally protected training in arms for the citizenry.I understand the right not to hunt but where in the Constitution does it say I do not have the right to target shoot with the arms I can bear? What law says that?
I’m saying that target shooting as a sport like hunting is not a constitutionally protected right. Training with firearms for defense of yourself and as part of a militia is, as spelled out in the second amendment. Militias were the armed citizens that could be called to arms when the nation was founded. We enjoy shooting sports because they are established for many reasons but you have no constitutional right to them. But I guess to your question, yes you can shoot the arms that you bear as being “well regulated”. At least this is my understanding. I’m not a lawyer or constitutional scholar though.I still do not understand what you are saying. Are you saying I cant target shoot with an arm I can bear by the second amendment? What are you even talking about with the citizenry and militias? So can I legally target shoot on my property? because you say it is not my right under the second amendment of my right to bear arms.
“a well regulated militia.”Im glad you are not a lawyer as I think your interpretation is way off. Target shooting is not a sport. Sport. Where is training spelled out in the constitution on the second amendment? What are the reasons we all enjoy these shooting sports for many reasons? I can bear arms so I can shoot my arms correct? You really make no sense with your militia nonsense.
It’s not my nonsense, bunch of guys in Philly a couple hundred years ago came up with that one.
There is historical interpretation that this meant a well trained and armed citizenry, meaning we the armed civilians. The second amendments sole existence is to protect our ability to defend ourselves individually and against the tyrannical forces of our own government.
there is a massive amount of literature on this. Do a google scholar search on the subject and you can read it for yourself. I’m not making it up. And no I’m not a lawyer. All I’m saying is that hunting etc is not constitutionally protected nor is a shooting sport. Now if you want to say that you are training and bearing your arms as a citizen that may be called to arms in defense of self and state then that’s different but as far as I’m aware, you have no right to compete in a clay pigeon match for instance. Of course it goes to say you can practice self defense but that’s avery Blurry line. And it is constantly being challenged by the left where we hear the argument that nobody needs an AR15 to target shoot or to hunt etc. then it falls back to the intent of the second amendment protections.
hard to really say. Government, state and local municipalities regulate target shooting all over. It’s completely illegal in some jurisdictions to discharge a firearm period. In some it’s a hassle of red tape and in others it’s a free for all.Ok so what if I want to shoot targets? Im not talking about shooting sports. Im talking about shooting my bear arms guns. Is that legal? Im not training for the civilian army in defense of the state as I am not a conspiracy theorist. What if I am not competing in anything and just target shooting? Do I have to do anything different? Do I have to wear a tin foil hat?
my personal feelings. there should be no regulations on firearms. The second amendment is the most attacked and dissected of all. Nobody questions our right to assembly or not incriminate ourselves but guns? Well all kinds of stuff goes on. It’s is a persecution of gun owners that revocation of second amendment rights are set at a very low bar in the criminal code, where even Charles Manson enjoyed freedom of speech. If you are rehabilitated well enough to walk as a free man then you should t have any weights tied to your legs.
Largely why we are having this discussion to begin with. Many will lay down on their back and offer their neck to the wolves without so much as a whimper.i can not understand the ignorance and stupidity being displayed here. If you have nothing to hide, is what the communist count on. no questions asked complicity...
Again. This is not how to frame this debate. It’s not about solving any problems. It’s incremental disarmament.I have no problem showing id as I have to already. I will not pay for a background check for ammo. The question is what problem are we trying to solve with a background check? Illegal weapons do not get purchased at the store and adding ammo to the list will only be the same. Putting more controls on law abiding citizens does not solve the criminal side. We have enough rules in place already that apparently do not work. Think back to the last few years and how hard it has been to get ammo. Supply issues. Democrat comes into office and.gun sales go through the roof due to fear. Ammo hoarding happens. If we are all innocent until proven guilty then why the need for the background check? Again what problem do they think they are solving?
The military is not for fighting our own government or domestic law enforcement.
Just caught up with this thread.
I am flabbergasted at the number of democrats and liberals here. We are lost. Benjamin Franklin was uncertain if the people would be able to keep a Republic, I understand why. The complete ignorance of the function of the national military and the intent of a civilian militia and the intent of the 2nd’s protections is nothing less than shameful.
“…May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
-Samuel Adams
I am flabbergasted at the number of democrats and liberals here. We are lost. Benjamin Franklin was uncertain if the people would be able to keep a Republic, I understand why. The complete ignorance of the function of the national military and the intent of a civilian militia and the intent of the 2nd’s protections is nothing less than shameful.
“…May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
-Samuel Adams
The national military. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. For defense of the nation under direct command and subordinate of the president.
Militia as referenced by the founders is you and I. Able bodied men trained in arms. Intended by the founders to bolster the national military in times of war and to be called upon and formed up in defense from a tyrannical government. You know, those guys at Lexington, the same ones at Cow Pens and The Crossing.
Militia as referenced by the founders is you and I. Able bodied men trained in arms. Intended by the founders to bolster the national military in times of war and to be called upon and formed up in defense from a tyrannical government. You know, those guys at Lexington, the same ones at Cow Pens and The Crossing.
Estimates were that only 10% of the colony was involved in the revolution. Most didn’t care or were too scared.The militia has become a figment of people's imaginations. The people can't agree on anything. They're not going to be fighting off our government just because a minority consider it "tyrannical"
And there is the problem. The revolution is taught as a fairy tale now. Not the war and founding of the greatest nation to have ever existed.Opinions vary
Well I’m neither. And it’s the job of the geriatrics to ensure the intent of freedom is not lost on posterity. Youth don’t care because they’ve been left to the care of Marxists in the schools, in media and everywhere else in their realm.
but if you think armed citizens are incapable of defending against the US government, I point you to Iraq and Afghanistan.
but if you think armed citizens are incapable of defending against the US government, I point you to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Well I’m neither. And it’s the job of the geriatrics to ensure the intent of freedom is not lost on posterity. Youth don’t care because they’ve been left to the care of Marxists in the schools, in media and everywhere else in their realm.
but if you think armed citizens are incapable of defending against the US government, I point you to Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Sorry guy. Even the crown was wary of destroying the colonies. George was aware how they would be perceived if they were to engage in a war of total destruction.The US government was fighting with one hand tied behind its back over there. I know, my son fought it. That won't be the case on US soil defending the greatest Nation on Earth. And NATO has trained and planned for a Civil War in the US in exercises such as Jade Helm and they'll get here rather quick when hostilities begin
NATO? the moment a foreign army set foot on American soil the entirety of the population would mobilize. There is one thing we as Americans share across ideological lines is that nobody comes here to dominate us. The first week after 9/11 we could have nuked any nation in the Middle East and not one American would have questioned it for even a second.
Iraq and Afghanistan? We were not willing to conquer either nation in the truest sense. We wanted to maintain stability and a functioning nation(s) supportive of the west. Yeah that’s being hobbled but WWII was the last time they left us off our leash and it was more of a big long leash than being really unleashed.
And in the right political climate, the us military being truly unleashed would be something so astounding and dominating that most could not imagine. But we are trending away from that capability rapidly.
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