Seems like it would be impossible for the average joe to obtain an automatic weapons permit. How would I go about in getting one? Can I even obtain one?
MODEL37 said:I beleive it's called A CLASS 3 FEDERAL FIREARMS PERMIT. Lot's of paper work,fingrprints,federal forms & money last I read the permit cost $300:00 but it could be more now. As has been stated to find a weapon that can be transfered is going to be some big bucks.
All the Class III items are kept in a registry by the ATF. What Congress did in 1986 was to not allow the ATF to register anymore machine guns for private use. This language was essentially snuck in at the 11th hour as part of the Firearm Owners Protection Act. While appropriately licensed manufactures can produce new machine guns to there hearts content, there is no way to transfer them to a private owner since they can not be registered.DennyF said:Every legally-transferable Class III firearm under the National Firearms Act has already been "registered", or it would not be legally transferable, if not mistaken?
The "tax stamp" is required for it to be transfered to your ownership.
Not all states even allow for the ownership of NFA firearms. I believe there's a list at that link? If not, Google the issue for a list of states. PA does allow them, with the proper licensing.
I hate Mac 10's. Full auto with one of them and I bet anyone they cant hit a 2'x2' sheet of cardboard 20 yards in front of them. Make it 4'x4'. I guess if you like to own one to each his own. A buddy of mine has some full auto firearms and he and I and anyone else's hands he puts the Mac 10 in can't hit crap with it. Maybe a side of a barn if I but the barrel up to it. And Denny's correct you have to start in the $five digits$ if you want anything good. I myself was kicking it around for awhile. And I'm still thinking about it actually, so I could own a few cans for some of my rifles.DennyF said:Yep. Anything transferable will start about $4K and up now. That'll get ya a Mac 10, or something similar.
Last I looked, most "good stuff" starts at around $10-$12K. Even select fire Ruger Minis are now fetchin' upwards of $6K. Wasn't all that long ago that I saw some of them around here, for less than three grand.
Class III stuff ain't priced for the needy.
If you go to this website, they have some brochures you can print if you run across idiots at the range who are sure they are illegal.DennyF said:We had some members come to a club meeting last fall, all wound up about someone using a suppressed rifle at our ranges. That quickely escalated into a "We gotta ban them things here...they're illegal" harangue.
Pointed out that someone should oughta ask the guy if he has the proper permit to own the suppressor, first, before gettin' all excited over it.
Also pointed out that if everyone at the club owned one or two of 'em, we wouldn't get any flack from the neighbors.