[steelhead125]

I wont say i dislike the sticks...I just have a certain expectation that a high end item like they are should come hunt ready. When i got these they were useless in their ability to be stacked and used quietly. With and $90 a pop piece of aluminum should i need $30 of felt tape and a $25 rod for them to be effective? I dont think so but maybe thats just me.

I was honestly very disappointed. I mean not even any kind of strap to hold them together? Sheesh. I am also not into carrying them horizontal on the beast stand. Ive had about 5-6 different kinds of sticks going back to wolfs, gorilla, xop, hawk, muddy.....there is nothing the beast gear can do that the others cant. If you dont have $1200 to spend on a setup dont sweat it. You can do just fine with much less.

I was using less expensive gear just a few years ago when I decided it was time to move on from my Summit Climber and I wasn’t doing just fine .
I was running a LW Assault 2 with 4 full length Hawk Helium sticks and hated it because it was such a heavy rig . The Hawk Sticks with the factory straps never seemed to get a real solid bite on the tree and the brackets would need tightened from time to time . Moving parts like that eventually begging to wear . Also not ideal being at your tree realizing things are getting loose . When grinding it out during the season I am just not sharp enough to constantly be checking my equipment and doing maintenance.
When I would have my last stick hung it was no fun standing on it while slinging the Assault off my shoulder and attaching it to the tree because while at the time it was known for being light it was still a challenge holding it with one arm and trying to keep my balance on those sticks .
The experience was such a pain I eventually abandoned that setup and went back to my climber .
The Beast Sticks are light with no moving parts and incredibly tolerances. Haven’t found a tree yet that I couldn’t get an awesome bite on and that gives me a great sense of security. I also have no issues with the way they stack and don’t find them cumbersome to pack .
With that being said I understand they don’t fit everyone’s style and people prefer other options. My Beast Sticks are such high quality they should last a lifetime.
As far as stands go I wanted something light that was also high quality. To me a light and balanced stand is so much easier to hang. I was doing a comparison the other day with the Assault and the Beast Stand by holding the post and sort of doing a front delt raise like you would do with dumbbells at the gym . The Assault was a real challenge and I could barely lift it over my head . The Beast Stand was as light as a feather and I could do it with ease .
With that being said guys out there don’t like the Beast Stand and prefer LWCG stands because they offer way more features. I get it . Everyone’s mind works differently. For me my biggest wants out of a stand are lightness and a decent size platform. There really is no other stand out there that compares in this regard . Those few less pounds actually make a huge difference. At least for me they do .

 

[Muppet]

I was using less expensive gear just a few years ago when I decided it was time to move on from my Summit Climber and I wasn’t doing just fine .
I was running a LW Assault 2 with 4 full length Hawk Helium sticks and hated it because it was such a heavy rig . The Hawk Sticks with the factory straps never seemed to get a real solid bite on the tree and the brackets would need tightened from time to time . Moving parts like that eventually begging to wear . Also not ideal being at your tree realizing things are getting loose . When grinding it out during the season I am just not sharp enough to constantly be checking my equipment and doing maintenance.
When I would have my last stick hung it was no fun standing on it while slinging the Assault off my shoulder and attaching it to the tree because while at the time it was known for being light it was still a challenge holding it with one arm and trying to keep my balance on those sticks .
The experience was such a pain I eventually abandoned that setup and went back to my climber .
The Beast Sticks are light with no moving parts and incredibly tolerances. Haven’t found a tree yet that I couldn’t get an awesome bite on and that gives me a great sense of security. I also have no issues with the way they stack and don’t find them cumbersome to pack .
With that being said I understand they don’t fit everyone’s style and people prefer other options. My Beast Sticks are such high quality they should last a lifetime.
As far as stands go I wanted something light that was also high quality. To me a light and balanced stand is so much easier to hang. I was doing a comparison the other day with the Assault and the Beast Stand by holding the post and sort of doing a front delt raise like you would do with dumbbells at the gym . The Assault was a real challenge and I could barely lift it over my head . The Beast Stand was as light as a feather and I could do it with ease .
With that being said guys out there don’t like the Beast Stand and prefer LWCG stands because they offer way more features. I get it . Everyone’s mind works differently. For me my biggest wants out of a stand are lightness and a decent size platform. There really is no other stand out there that compares in this regard . Those few less pounds actually make a huge difference. At least for me they do .

Your sticks were not wobbly when stacked? Mine would rock back and forth at any touch? The way they stack, metal to metal contact was impossible to avoid just by the design. Not anything that wasnt fixable, but just saying. My wolf sticks have been through a hard life. Ive replaced the steps and washers but all in all..still pretty good. They do loosen up and need a snug a few times a year.

The beast stand is a nice deal. My assault however was built 20 years ago and personally at #150lbs and 48 years old that 2lbs of weight just wasnt worth it. Nearing $700 is steep for me. That being said, i never hang the stand overhead so its not too big of a deal. For its size and platform space...man i still think that assault is an all time great. Any rig is an investment and for the amount of times you use it a year over 10 years its well worth it.

Im also not walking up mountains...that makes a huge difference. Im sure you will enjoy your stand and feel a sense of confidence with it on your back. That is half the fun.

 

[limbhnger10]

Man is it a nice day out!

 

[steelhead125]

Your sticks were not wobbly when stacked? Mine would rock back and forth at any touch? The way they stack, metal to metal contact was impossible to avoid just by the design. Not anything that wasnt fixable, but just saying. My wolf sticks have been through a hard life. Ive replaced the steps and washers but all in all..still pretty good. They do loosen up and need a snug a few times a year.

The beast stand is a nice deal. My assault however was built 20 years ago and personally at #150lbs and 48 years old that 2lbs of weight just wasnt worth it. Nearing $700 is steep for me. That being said, i never hang the stand overhead so its not too big of a deal. For its size and platform space...man i still think that assault is an all time great. Any rig is an investment and for the amount of times you use it a year over 10 years its well worth it.

Im also not walking up mountains...that makes a huge difference. Im sure you will enjoy your stand and feel a sense of confidence with it on your back. That is half the fun.

The sticks with the rod don’t wobble at all and I stealth stripped them so they’re silent. Honestly though a lot of guys don’t run them that way . They prefer to just lay them on the stand and bungee everything. Seems to work for them .
The Assault 2 is a really great stand also so I plan on holding on to it . It’s just when you hold it in your hand and then hold the Beast Stand there really is no comparison in regards to weight and balance . Plus the Beast Stand antler bracket gives you more options when it comes to various size trees and hanging it with an offset. In my opinion it also bites better than the batwing on the Assault .
When I am hanging a stand I am not lifting it over my head but it’s nice to have something so light that it’s effortless to hold in one hand keeping it level while bringing my strap around the tree with the other hand .
Anyhow I never would have thought I would be into gear like I am now . A few years back it was all about hunting clothing. Now I am on a mobile gear kick . There was a time when I would scoff at people such as myself. Lol
I guess as hunters we’re always evolving so I try not to be too judgmental on other’s styles and methods . While in the moment I may not understand or agree with them down the road I could change my perspective and be on the same page .
For all I know I could be on a lease in a few years planting food plots and running trail cameras.

 

[Muppet]

The sticks with the rod don’t wobble at all and I stealth stripped them so they’re silent. Honestly though a lot of guys don’t run them that way . They prefer to just lay them on the stand and bungee everything. Seems to work for them .
The Assault 2 is a really great stand also so I plan on holding on to it . It’s just when you hold it in your hand and then hold the Beast Stand there really is no comparison in regards to weight and balance . Plus the Beast Stand antler bracket gives you more options when it comes to various size trees and hanging it with an offset. In my opinion it also bites better than the batwing on the Assault .
When I am hanging a stand I am not lifting it over my head but it’s nice to have something so light that it’s effortless to hold in one hand keeping it level while bringing my strap around the tree with the other hand .
Anyhow I never would have thought I would be into gear like I am now . A few years back it was all about hunting clothing. Now I am on a mobile gear kick . There was a time when I would scoff at people such as myself. Lol
I guess as hunters we’re always evolving so I try not to be too judgmental on other’s styles and methods . While in th loe moment I may not understand or agree with them down the road I could change my perspective and be on the same page .
For all I know I could be on a lease in a few years planting food plots and running trail cameras.

I think its great. hunting is only a few weeks a year. Evolving can be year round fun i hope you enjoy every minute of it.

 

[steelhead125]

I think its great. hunting is only a few weeks a year. Evolving can be year round fun i hope you enjoy every minute of it.

Absolutely and hope you do to Muppet .

 

[Muppet]

Maybe Tbrom will meet up with me and check out his beast stand...

 

[yellodog]

It must be different in areas with more farmland and smaller wood lots, I would guess about 75 percent of the buck I get in the summer are still there in the fall.

Usually, there's not many bucks actually on our farm during the summer, but they start arriving in early September. Last year was an anomaly, we were loaded up in late summer, but most of them left. Had a real slow season for some reason.

 

[Muppet]

Clutch strap vs. Stick rod.....man ill take the clutch strap. If i could post a video i would. Great $20 investment and it only takes one

 

[limbhnger10]

Man is it a nice day out!

Retracting this comment...snow storm for past 3 hours

 

[steelhead125]

Retracting this comment...snow storm for past 3 hours

Yeah . I sort of scratched my head when you originally said that . It’s been cold and windy out my way all day and we have been getting periodic snow squalls. I am so over this crap .

 

[TBrom]

Maybe Tbrom will meet up with me and check out his beast stand...

Any time, @Muppet. Initially, I stated that the only changes that I was going to make to the stand were to X the cam buckles for daisy chains. After hunting with it for a year, I went back to the cam buckles and did stealth-strip the sticks. Since I'm going back to a recurve this year and limiting my shots to 15 yards, I'm only hunting at a height of 12 feet to get the proper shot angle. Getting there with 4-sticks and the Beast stand will be super easy.

 

[limbhnger10]

Yeah . I sort of scratched my head when you originally said that . It’s been cold and windy out my way all day and we have been getting periodic snow squalls. I am so over this crap .

i hear ya..A nice day up here , is a crappy day down there.

 

[steelhead125]

I got called into work twice today but still had time to play around with the stand some more. The more I handle the thing the more I fall in love with it . Zero regrets spending the money and the only way to appreciate it is to see one in person and to try it out yourself .
Hate talking the stand up so much because people could just dismiss it as me being a fanboy but I am being genuinely sincere.
For all I know the LWCG stands are even better but I am perfectly content with the Beast Stand .

 

[GSP66]

Your sticks were not wobbly when stacked? Mine would rock back and forth at any touch? The way they stack, metal to metal contact was impossible to avoid just by the design. Not anything that wasnt fixable, but just saying. My wolf sticks have been through a hard life. Ive replaced the steps and washers but all in all..still pretty good. They do loosen up and need a snug a few times a year.

The beast stand is a nice deal. My assault however was built 20 years ago and personally at #150lbs and 48 years old that 2lbs of weight just wasnt worth it. Nearing $700 is steep for me. That being said, i never hang the stand overhead so its not too big of a deal. For its size and platform space...man i still think that assault is an all time great. Any rig is an investment and for the amount of times you use it a year over 10 years its well worth it.

Im also not walking up mountains...that makes a huge difference. Im sure you will enjoy your stand and feel a sense of confidence with it on your back. That is half the fun.

Mine don't wobble. I do have mine stealth stripped. I also had the piece of all thread stealth stripped too, but took it off because I couldn't easily get it through the sticks when they were also stealth stripped.

I always hated standing on one foot on my LW sticks trying to hang the LW stand. Now with the beast stand being as light as it is and having two feet at the same level - its easy peasy lemon squeezy.

The cost is a big thing for people, but I viewed it as I won't have to buy another stand again until I'm too old to hunt this way and I don't have to worry about ladder stands growing legs and wondering away.

 

[Muppet]

Mine don't wobble. I do have mine stealth stripped. I also had the piece of all thread stealth stripped too, but took it off because I couldn't easily get it through the sticks when they were also stealth stripped.

I always hated standing on one foot on my LW sticks trying to hang the LW stand. Now with the beast stand being as light as it is and having two feet at the same level - its easy peasy lemon squeezy.

The cost is a big thing for people, but I viewed it as I won't have to buy another stand again until I'm too old to hunt this way and I don't have to worry about ladder stands growing legs and wondering away.

I understand. I just never hung my stand on one foot. I just staggered my feet on steps 2 and 3 and hung the stand with the button about chest level. The double step is easier though.

My old assault is about 1lb more than a beast stand, as long and 3 inches wider....which i like. I put a beast bracket on it and its about pefect. I remember buying it for 199.00 shipped...those were the days.

 

[steelhead125]

My Assault 2 is a little over 11 pounds . Doesn’t seem like that’s a huge difference compared to the Beast Stand but it really is .
Not saying I had any issues hanging the Assault but I wouldn’t t call it easy . Especially when slinging it off my shoulder and slinging it back on going up and the tree.
Ordered some XOP shoulder straps because the factory ones the Beast Stand came with are pretty crappy . Not even sure why they bother including them.

 

[Muppet]

My Assault 2 is a little over 11 pounds . Doesn’t seem like that’s a huge difference compared to the Beast Stand but it really is .
Not saying I had any issues hanging the Assault but I wouldn’t t call it easy . Especially when slinging it off my shoulder and slinging it back on going up and the tree.
Ordered some XOP shoulder straps because the factory ones the Beast Stand came with are pretty crappy . Not even sure why they bother including them.

They altered the original in the mid 2000. I have what they call the 1.5 also and it is 10.5. It was the model before the assault 2 I enjoyed that stand a lot . Im gonna check out Tbroms beast stand...but i love this assault. Those cutouts on the front of the beast stand are awful big on size 8 boots...but we shall see.

 

[steelhead125]

They altered the original in the mid 2000. I have what they call the 1.5 also and it is 10.5. It was the model before the assault 2 I enjoyed that stand a lot . Im gonna check out Tbroms beast stand...but i love this assault. Those cutouts on the front of the beast stand are awful big on size 8 boots...but we shall see.

The Beast Stand definitely doesn’t work for everyone. There is a little more flex out on the end and some guys aren’t a big fan of that large cut out . I wear a size 13 so the only way my boot is falling in is if I intentionally do it . The flex also doesn’t bother me at all .
Will be curious to see what you think of it.

 

[Muppet]

Im positive its very nice. If i was starting fresh it would likely be first on my list. I think im just kinda at the point where i ask myself what does this do that what i have cant. I guess thats why i have a 1994 pickup, a dog gps from 2006, and a 2013 model bow...lol. there is comfort in familiarity...