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With an electronic lock, how would one get the safe open "after" a fire? The keypad on the door does not look to me like they would survive a fire.
 

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I would not buy a safe with a electronic lock. I have doubts about them opening after an EMP event, call me paranoid. Also, Cannon makes safes that utilize a lock that is both keypad and combo. I'm happy with the plain old tumbler.
 

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The Winchesters don't have a backup But Stack On has a key backup . I like the key backup allot better .
 

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kdvarmint said:
With an electronic lock, how would one get the safe open "after" a fire? The keypad on the door does not look to me like they would survive a fire.
I have a friend who purchased safe with an electronic lock from Cabelas. The lock failed. Cabelas sent a locksmith. He could not get in. They had to get another locksmith and send him to the house. It took about two weeks until he could get into the safe.
 

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I been using the S&G tumbles for 25 years and never had one problem. The only thing I do now is keep a small flashlight and a pair of cheaters close by.
 

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I love the guys with combo locks with a key and only use the key because they are too lazy to use the combo. I am not a accomplished locksmith but I do have some experience. I can pick those locks in a few seconds....

I also have flashlights near my safes.
 

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So back to the original question. With an electronic key pad and without a key back up, how do you open the safe after a fire?
 

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Ditto what RobOz said, I wouldn't have a electronic combo. When I bought my safe all the manufactures recommend staying away from electronic, they said 90% of the lock issues were with them. Renny, the key on my dial is to lock the dial only, I'm not sure picking that key is going to gain you much, honestly, I couldn't tell you where my key is, I never lock the dial.

As far as getting into the safe after a fire, if it's bad enough for the dial lock not to function chances are the safe is junk, most of them are less than 10 gauge steel, unless it was anodized with something special you can cut it open with a Metabo grinder and a cutting wheel
 

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Some makes (S &G for example) has a option of using the key for quick access instead of using the combo. They use cheap tumblers and are easy to pick. I have a couple friends who are liberty dealers and these locks are sometimes used on that brand. They always just used the key on their personal safes until I showed them just how easy it is to get in.

Just wanted to give a heads up. Sorry to get off topic.....
 

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Gunnermhr said:
As far as getting into the safe after a fire, if it's bad enough for the dial lock not to function chances are the safe is junk, [/quoteRe: 2014 ground hog success Predator, Varmint and Raccoon Forum Sat Mar 22 2014 04:57 PM
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The ones I've looked look like the keypad would melt with a lighter. Would prefer a combination dial but there doesn't seem to be many of them. Thought with so many opinions here someone might have covered it. Guess I'll ask next time I make it out to look. Buying a safe can make you pull your hair out. Maybe if I was spending someone else's money it would be easy.
 
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