[hoytxcutter]

I want to find the guy who hunts on land which he doesn't have permission to hunt on. I want to find his house, walk in the front door and sit down on his couch and watch some TV. When he comes home and asks me what the heck I am doing, I am just gonna say, hey the house wasn't posted...

PA needs to adopt more serious trespassing laws. They need to allow WCO's to enforce trespassing laws whether there are game laws being violated or not. In Virginia, trespassing on non posted land is a class 2 misdemeanor carrying up to 6 months in jail and a $1000 fine. Trespassing on posted land without written permission is a class 1 misdemeanor and carries up to a year in jail and a $2500 fine. Trespassing is still an issue, but nothing like it is in PA. Guys know they may actually face something more than a joke of a slap on the wrist!

You can't compare a person's home to a piece of ground. No where near the same.

 

[hoytxcutter]

I once had a WCO tell me that at the least the owner had to have their telephone number on the signs. He said that if a hunter wounded a deer and it entered posted property the hunter need to know who to contact to see if he could retrieve the deer. If the owner would not give permission to call him and he would retrieve it.

 

[hoytxcutter]

Not true.

100% true I was their. I hit a deer in muzzle loader season and it went on this posted property. Land owner would not let me retrieve the deer. I phoned the WCO and told him what was up. He met me at my house and followed me to the property the deer went into. He noticed the signs did not have any name or phoned number on them. This is when he informed me that the signs have to have a phone number on them. He then proceeded on to the property to retrieve the wounded deer. Absolutely true.

 

[hoytxcutter]

Not true.

100% true I was their. I hit a deer in muzzle loader season and it went on this posted property. Land owner would not let me retrieve the deer. I phoned the WCO and told him what was up. He met me at my house and followed me to the property the deer went into. He noticed the signs did not have any name or phoned number on them. This is when he informed me that the signs have to have a phone number on them. He then proceeded on to the property to retrieve the wounded deer. Absolutely true.

What is the WCO's name? How did you reach him, you have a number you can reach him/her immediately? If you or the WCO can show me where in the law they have a right to track a deer on personal property I will buy you a beer. Recently there has been case law on WCO's and whether they can enter private property to check license if they have probable cause that someone is hunting. I don't believe this case law regards the searching for a wounded animal on private property.

The law that has been stated on this forum has nothing to do with entering posted property. It says that a WCO can not determine the ownership of the deer in question. I know several WCOs and deputies in this area and everyone of them will go on posted property to retrieve a wounded deer. I will not give you their name but all I do is call the regional office and they in turn get a hold of the WCO and he then returns my call. I do not have a direct line to him. All I know is this is what I witnessed and have been told by a WCO.

 

[hoytxcutter]

It does not much matter if they rebuke it or not. This is the way my local WCO and deputies handle it.

 

[hoytxcutter]

If you would read what you posted above it says that the WCO can not arbitrate the ownership of said deer. It says nothing about going on posted property. Enough said. Nothing stupid about it.

 

[hoytxcutter]

I agree, if people would just take the time to research the law, instead of relying on what a friends brothers uncles neighbors grandmothers daughter in laws sisters gardners barber says then pages such as this would be a page at best, instead of the 8 we're up to now.

This not from aunt uncle brother sister or friends long lost mother. This is straight from my local WCOs mouth. I don't care if you believe it or not.

 

[hoytxcutter]

I hope you catch them.

 

[hoytxcutter]

Nobody would be leeching. They would claiming what is rightfully theirs. If a land owner would not let a person retrieve a deer then they are not much of a person and one day will have to answer for their short comings as we all will.

 

[hoytxcutter]

That part was added and is just a person's interpretation of it.

 

[hoytxcutter]

It does not really matter. He didn't write the law he is only trying to interrupt it. As I have stated before I am speaking of the local WCO in this area. There is nothing in what you posted that says a WCO can not go on posted property. It says the WCO can not be the person who decides who's deer it is.

 

[hoytxcutter]

Make any sign you like. But joking about shooting a person for trespassing is not funny considering today's happenings.

 

[hoytxcutter]

No I am obeying the law by contacting the WCO and he is the one retrieving the deer. I would not go on posted property.

 

[hoytxcutter]

I would say there would at least have to be a blood trail going on to the posted property. I do not believe he would have the right just because a hunter thought he wounded a deer. There would have to be some evidence of a wounded deer. I believe there would not be any charges filed if the WCO was retrieving a deer.

 

[hoytxcutter]

I read the same post and all it said was a WCO can not arbitrate the ownership of the deer. It was just the person who posted that who interrupted it say they could not go on posted property. I have personally seen a WCO in fact go on posted property and retrieve a wounded deer.

 

[hoytxcutter]

No sir you need to better informed.

 

[hoytxcutter]

Good night to all. Hope everyone has a safe and great hunting season. Remember people it is only a deer. No ones life is worth a deer.

 

[hoytxcutter]

Please reread and apologize. That is what I said.

 

[hoytxcutter]

I said he did not have the right if the hunter said he thought he wounded the deer.

 

[hoytxcutter]

No one is arguing just debating. They can search your car with out a warrant. Your house I am not sure about.