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Do you know anyone that is like that ?
I would place myself in the 45 to 50% of the time group. It has even dropped these days since i can't go like i use to and i have lost a lot of areas i use to hunt to it being posted.
The few hunters i know that have a high rate of success put in a lot of time and learning the area they hunt. The dedication they put in to it is amazing. Often times it is something passed down from one of their family members like their father?
I had no one to teach me. I got started in the 50s and the uncles and their friends, that i hunted with were all deer drive hunters!
For forty years my theory was to treat it like fishing? Figure where you wanted to hunt and just go there and wait.One day a light went off in my tiny brain and it said this just isn't the way to hunt deer!
I read everything i could find and put many miles and hours in the woods and fields studying them. I am still learning?
 

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I might know one or 2 guys like that. I'm not like that. Been hunting 20 years and got 2 bucks.

I was raised around rifle hunters that mostly taught me still hunting and understanding public land pressure. Find a rub line or most recent sign and you might get lucky.

I feel like the light bulb went off for me when I started archery hunting. I've always been interested in learning as much as I can about my areas and deer behavior. Now I feel like I have a few more tools to my advantage. The Internet has taught me a lot about different strategies, different behaviors, and of course it's also gimmicks central.

Since I have gotten more serious about hunting I have more consistently filled my tags. Not a booner or a p&y but trophies to me. As each season comes anew I feel more equipped and ready for opening day.

At the end of the day I am there to have fun and realize I have NO control over the wild animals. If one stops bt when im there, that glory goes to god.
 

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I would say that I fall into the 90% category. Probably for two reasons, I hunt the full 2 weeks of rifle all day, every single day. Second being, I'm not super picky about the buck I take. I haven't killed a nice buck (130's) since 2009. They've all been smaller 6's, 7's and 8's.
 

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i think I'm in the 90%. my personal rifle season tactic is to place a stand between the other hunters and good escape cover or a well traveled corridor.

get in early, i like to be in position at least 45 minutes before daylight. wait for the others to kick the deer to you AND

if you can out last the other hunters your odds go up drastically. they get cold or bored around 9:30 or 10am and start walking around. I WAIT and they usually bump deer toward me.

works on private land to. the neighbors do the same thing and the deer cross the road to our section of woods.

its a rare year when i dont at least get a shot at a buck.
 

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I have also followed the same tactics as bohunr. I'm an all day sitter generally, regardless of how cold I get. This year on days when the woods are less populated, I will be taking a few slow strolls, but generally I sit in areas I know the deer will end up when the late starters and lunchgoers get moving.
 

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Their should be 2 camps to answer this question fairly. Hunting deer on private property isn't like hunting public hunting ground. Now if your fit, or have access to cut off public land thru a private property you can get further "in" to where there is less pressure... your success rate will go up if you put in the time.
 

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grovey said:
Their should be 2 camps to answer this question fairly. Hunting deer on private property isn't like hunting public hunting ground. Now if your fit, or have access to cut off public land thru a private property you can get further "in" to where there is less pressure... your success rate will go up if you put in the time.
I'm not sure why people say that.My success rate on public property has never been any different than it is on private property.I actually see far more people on private land than I do public land and it's been that way for about 15 years now.
 

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I have also followed the same tactics as bohunr. I'm an all day sitter generally, regardless of how cold I get. This year on days when the woods are less populated, I will be taking a few slow strolls, but generally I sit in areas I know the deer will end up when the late starters and lunchgoers get moving.
I do the exact opposite except during archery season.Today there's far less pressure and more food for what deer are there.They simply don't have any need to get up and move during the day.I still hunt the vast majority of the timer and see far more deer doing that.
 

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Fallair said:
I have also followed the same tactics as bohunr. I'm an all day sitter generally, regardless of how cold I get. This year on days when the woods are less populated, I will be taking a few slow strolls, but generally I sit in areas I know the deer will end up when the late starters and lunchgoers get moving.
I do the exact opposite except during archery season.Today there's far less pressure and more food for what deer are there.They simply don't have any need to get up and move during the day.I still hunt the vast majority of the timer and see far more deer doing that.
This is obviously a situational approach given the property and pressure surrounding it. I still see just enough hunters around from bordering properties that the deer get moving.
 

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I agree but the private property and public property differences get to me.You can have some long boring sits on public property in the northern tier and it has nothing to do with low deer numbers.
 

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There is no arguing that having the right piece of hunting property help the hunters succes rate! I've had great farms to hunt over the years that I have lost and I've hunted some terrible state and private ground.
But the land definitely makes the hunter. That's why there are not a bunch of shows filmed in pa state forests or gamelands.
Plus seasons of life take their toll on success rates too.
I've had 2 years in 34 that I didn't kill a buck or a doe one as recent as 2014. New job no vacation and no good place to hunt plus child obligation s. just happens! Between pa, wv, Maryland and Ohio I've killed more buck then years I've been hunting. I've killed some respectable bucks no record book bucks.
 

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This post got me thinking so I did the Math.

I've been able to hunt 15 of 19 seasons (Military. I've killed 10 bucks in those 15 seasons with one of those years being a dual kill year (2014 I shot a buck in both PA and Ohio). So, 9/15 gives me a 60% success rate.

Thinking back, there may be two or three guys that I personally know that click up close to 90%.
 

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Not that my opinion counts, but I couldn't tell you how many bucks I have harvested in my lifetime. I never kept track because it was never important to me to keep track.

What I can say is that I shot several bucks before I ever shot a doe. Back in the day it was one and you are done.
I think I was probably 18 yrs old before I ever shot my first doe. Doe's were a lot harder to hunt back then, because everyone hunted bucks on the first day and hunting in the game lands here, it was not uncommon to see 50 - 60 deer a day. Not to say it wasn't the same 12 deer / 3 or 4 times, being pushed past my stand.

Grandpa always said, where the girls are, there you will find the boys! How true!

We always hunted does in camp on private land, no one ever kept records of how many does we shot either.
Some years everyone in the camp shot a doe - 8 / 12 does hanging in the trees around the camp, and we never even put a dent in the doe population.

Antler restrictions reduced the number of deer sightings per a day, but also increased the size and number of bucks I saw. After moving my tree stand 3 times in 6 years, I finally found a spot that pretty much guaranteed me a buck every year. Then everyone posted their land and the deer stopped moving around like they did before. Local farmers started planting corn - for the ethanol plant, and the deer would hang out around the corn, on posted land.

It stopped snowing, and the deer hung out in the fields - green grass, and that also decreased the opportunity to get a deer there. Before the Posted Signs, the hunters put on multiple deer drives - especially the last day of the seasons, and there were plenty of opportunities.

Then the white oaks died and the red oaks had several years - no acorns, which also moved the deer to other places.
The springs dried up, and the deer hung out around the seeps and creeks, and they avoided the places with the hunters.

The Game Commission outlawed feeders - CWD - and I believe the people that bought our camp were feeding the deer year round before the mandate, stopped feeding the deer, and the deer stopped coming into the woods where I hunted all together.

I went back to the Game Lands, but the PGC opened up a road, made it easier for the hunters to get back further into the woods. This opened the woods up to more hunters, and more road hunters. The road hunters blabbed about all the deer they saw, and the Pilgrim Haulers started hauling in the Amish. The Amish got organized - walkie talkies and cell phones, and put on silent drives and started shooting everything. Pretty soon I will have to go to a Zoo to see a deer!

IN my area, this started in the north, then the hunters moved south - with the declining deer population.
A couple more counties and soon there will be no more deer except on private land.

It's pretty hard to get a buck when I only saw 5 deer total last year, and I hunted morning to night every day of the deer rifle season.

The problem is - there is too many deer seasons.
Too liberal bag limits.
Archery Season - that should only be 2 weeks long, being way too long, giving the opportunist first opportunity at shooting everything in the woods.
By the time rifle season comes along, most of the big bucks have already been harvested in my area.

The doe population has been decimated.
The bucks has gotten to the point of where they don't even rub the trees anymore.
The only does I shot last year, weighed 80 lbs.
I never saw a 3 year old doe last year!
Not even while driving down the road at night - with the truck headlights..

You either have to own a piece of land - to hunt, or you have to hunt in The Game Lands - where I live.

As long as the opportunists gets their deer, no one is going to complain - there are no deer.
When the deer population gets to the point of where no one is seeing any deer, it will probably already be too late.

Farmland being lost to housing and housing developments taking over those small plots of woods where I hunted rabbits and small game as a kid, drives the next generation of hunters away faster than anything else.

We have to do more to make this sport more attractive to the next generation of hunters - the kids, not adults with lot's of money and an archery license and camo.

You have to have rabbits and squirrels and grouse and pheasants - action, to keep them entertained.
Most kids, if put on a cold deer stand for 8 hours will quickly get bored and want to quit, just because video games, cell phones and sports gives them instant satisfaction.

Like any hobby, if we don't look at the problem - as long as we are getting what we want, eventually it won't be a problem, because there won't be any hunters left in another 30 years!

My guns will probably be sold at an auction when I die.
No one to leave them to!
Most of my stuff will be considered JUNK and thrown in the garbage dumpster..
All of those trophy's - to me, will be nothing but stuff thrown in a landfill. GARBAGE....

You can't eat the horns - is what my grandpa always told me!
 

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It sounds like a pretty bitter way to enjoy the rest of your hunting seasons.
 

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I am lucky to have a couple really good areas around home to archery and gun hunt I'm at 100% for getting 1+ does a year and probably around 75% for getting a buck...that being said some of my most fulfilling hunts are at camp where my success rate is considerably lower
 

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I am fortunate in that I could be 100% on "a buck" if I so chose.

For years I put an arrow through the first buck that walked by. Then I looked at all the boxes of basket racks I had and wondered........... "what for" ??

In 2004 I stopped shooting "a buck" unless it were going to go on the wall........ In the 11 seasons since I have arrowed 5. So I'm now a member of the 45% club and MUCH more satisfied with the way my seasons go.
 

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I hunt a mixture of private and public land and spend a lot of time scouting and knocking on doors. The private land I hunt is by asking for permission and most others have permission to hunt it also. I only bow hunt and rarely take a gun out anymore. I pass on a lot of legal bucks every season and will have seasons where I will pass on 40 bucks or more. I generally will encounter 3 to 6 big mature bucks in a season and if I get one in bow range I maybe kill 50% of them and seem to be getting worse at that especially since I started wearing glasses. So I guess I am a 50 percenter.
 

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I probably could shoot one every year. At the same time I take 2.5 to 3 weeks off of work for archery season. Last year I passed on a six point and two small 8 pointers. I am not a trophy hunter but they were just too small for my taste.

When I hunted private ground around here I shot my biggest buck to date and also saw the most buck in archery season and deer in general. The public land I hunted had a lot of food and good cover. It was also easy to figure out due to all the trails and funnels in the area. It was a matter of being patient and making minor adjustments during the season.

Now I almost exclusively hunt mountain deer and my success rate has dropped to 50%. It's just a lot tougher. At the same time you can't beat the solitude and challenges the mountains provide and it's my favorite way to hunt whitetails now.
 
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