[Blueeagle]

I used 777 this year and was not too impressed with igntion. I even pre loaded the barrel with about 5 grs of ffff. Didn't seem to help much. Just wondering what everyone else is using.

 

[jim stemler]

the holy black

 

[410-er]

If your using an inline it will work fine.They give a hotter,more direct flane to the charge.
In a flinter,stick the real Goex Black Powder.
Blackpowder gives faster ignition because of its lower flash point.

 

[octagon]

I use real Goex blackpowder in all of my muzzleloaders regardless of ignition style. More reliable and it smokes and smells great

 

[Bryan Cutler]

I agree, old fashion black powder is the best. Don't forget we conquered most of our country with that stuff!

 

[jim stemler]

easy to fine tune your loads with real black and i love the smell

 

[Blueeagle]

Sounds like I need to forget this fancy stuff an go back to basics. Thanks guys.

 

[410-er]

 

[c_laubach]

Swiss BLK POWDER

 

[good ole boy]

I too have had great success with the good ole standby Goex.ButI was wantin to try Swiss next.What is it like compared to Goex?If it don,t have the smoke and smell I,m not interested.

 

[SpiritNugent]

Go black, and never look back.

 

[RAM Outdoor]

Swiss has the same smell but does burn cleaner than Goex. Ignition rate in 69 cal smoothbore seems to be about the same as fffg goex.

 

[Retiredusne8]

Black powder

 

[pappybear]

Geox, FF, Black Powder.

 

[brewyak]

use the real deal, I am gong to try the swiss next time I go to Dixon's

 

[Jester]

Okay.....I'll bite. 90gr. 2f 777 with 5gr fff BP. In a Lyman GPR. Been shootin it for years now and have had no ignition issues at all. I like the ease of cleaning. Use it in the TC Encore inline also w/o issue.

It's all in what ya like and what works for you. I must add that I never had ignition issue with BP either and the smoke/smell was great too!!

 

[tundragriz]

Here too, used black for about 23 years and switched to 777 about 6-7 years ago. I notice a slightly longer delay than with the black but I haven't tried the black primer charge yet. Never had an instance when the pan went off that the main didn't. Took my longest deer shot this year with 90gr 3F T7 and a PB 338 Platinum, haven't ranged it yet but I know where 200 is so the shot should range at about 180. MV is 1630fps, I zero at 100 and pattern it at 150, 6" low. Took a big NM bull elk in Sept with this load and am seriously considering using it for an upcoming Newfoundland moose hunt.

 

[5chunter]

777 in the inline. flintlock pure blackness

 

[mountainman09]

goex the only way to go

 

[PA RIDGE RUNNER]

Use what you want. Having said that I use good old Gooex in all my muzzleloaders. The reason for that is the ignition point of real BP is around 460 degrees while all the substitutes have an ignition temp of over 700 degrees. A flintlock has the weakest fire of any ignition system. I had a real problem with ignition using APP in a sidelock.