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Hopefully!!! My 6.5 Swede may finally have a future for a crack at a PA Elk ...if ever drawn!! I have voiced my support to the PGC so many times & appears finally appears they agree!!!!!!!

6.5 MM CREEDMOOR COULD BECOME LEGAL ROUND FOR ELK

The Pennsylvania Board of Game Commissioners today gave preliminary approval to a measure that would permit the state’s elk hunters to use the 6.5 mm Creedmoor round and related .26 caliber firearms.

Existing regulations require elk hunters to use firearms that are .27 caliber or more, with bullets of at least 130 grains. But after a review, the Game Commission has determined that increasingly popular firearms in the .26 caliber range provide adequate and commonly accepted kinetic energies to efficiently and ethically harvest elk.

The change would allow use of .26 caliber firearms with bullets of 120 grains or more for elk hunting.

The measure will be brought back to the July meeting for a final vote.
 

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LOL!! Sounds like this loooooonnnnggggg awaited change will finally be passed!!
 

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What would make sense is to adopt a Powerfactor rule ( like IDPA, IPSC etc)

Muzzle velocity X Bullet weight. Anything expanding bullet over the PF is legal.
 

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Good for you 6.5 guys. I know many have been asking for this. Although I don’t really understand why. But then again I a 30-06 165gr for deer, 1 1/8oz 3dram for trap, guy so I lean towards bigger is better.
 

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So it was no issue that the 264wm couldn’t be used for elk, but along comes the Creedmoor and we gotta allow it?

Lol

I’m good with the change but the Creedmoor being the catalyst is lame.

And I’ve hit 2900 for a 140 in a swede with RL26 and no pressure symptoms.

That is safe ONLY in modern bolt rifles and NOT in any military 6.5x55 of any kind.

That rifle was a Win Model 70 fwt with a 22” barrel. I got to 2910 before hitting the upper limit.

That rifle settled in best at about 2830 and that’s where I wound up with the finished load.
 

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So it was no issue that the 264wm couldn’t be used for elk, but along comes the Creedmoor and we gotta allow it?

Lol

I’m good with the change but the Creedmoor being the catalyst is lame.

And I’ve hit 2900 for a 140 in a swede with RL26 and no pressure symptoms.

That is safe ONLY in modern bolt rifles and NOT in any military 6.5x55 of any kind.

That rifle was a Win Model 70 fwt with a 22” barrel. I got to 2910 before hitting the upper limit.

That rifle settled in best at about 2830 and that’s where I wound up with the finished load.

Someone with a little influence bought one.
 

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You 6.5 guys should just be thanking the Creedmoor for making your bore diameter relevant. The components have gotten a whole lot better because if it.
 

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Eh....

Anyone serious about anything in the 264 bores already knew/knows how to shop intelligently for components and have a good supply on hand. If anything, the Creedmoor made bullets a bit shorter in supply because of increased demand.

I have a Swede and a 264WM and there’s been good hunting bullets (since that’s the context here, hunting) available for years in that bore. And available.

The guys who want to buy a box of 50 the day they need them probably got frustrated, but they weren’t suited to own a less common bore diameter anyway.

When I buy bullets of any kind, I buy several hundred.

Primers... several thousand.

Powder, multi-pound containers so you can actually use the same lot of powder for a time.

The Creedmoor coming on the scene hasn’t changed the landscape much for me from that perspective.

But I guess if that’s what it took to get 264’s legal for elk, ok. I won’t argue that.

Just shows a lack of understanding of cartridges and exterior ballistics if it truly was the creedmoor that was the impetus for the change in PA elk. But a win is a win I guess....
 

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I have a 6,5X55 CZ 550FS and shoot Norma USA American PH Ammunition 156 Grain Oryx ammo. Norma loads their PH ammo line hotter than any American manufacturer to 2559 fps for this 156 grain bonded bullet w/gilding metal jacket & lead core. I'm confident this round is capable of taking a PA Elk with no problem. In Scandinavian countries it's a common 6.5 round for moose.
 

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What is legal to use and what is best suited for the task are 2 different things! I know people that hunt deer with .222s and .22-250s also. Legal, yes, best suited for the job, NO!
 

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What is legal to use and what is best suited for the task are 2 different things! I know people that hunt deer with .222s and .22-250s also. Legal, yes, best suited for the job, NO!
I'll guarantee you've never shot a deer with either one. Especially the -250.
 

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A lot of people like the 6.5 Swede. They like to use their Walkers or their Canes to rest their Swedes for a steady shot. The only trouble for them is a lot of Retirement homes now don't let them keep their guns. Us younger guys tend to like the Creedmoor better. :D
 

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you're gonna make your trigger finger weary with all your pot stirring... lol

I have a 264WM that I love to death. It's just a cool round, even though from a truly functional standpoint, there's not a whole lot it does that a well-crafted 270 Winchester load can't.

As for the Creedmoor, a buddy of mine is a retired Marine Raider/MARSOC guy. He's all in on the Creedmoor, and he's one of the most talented reloaders I know in addition to his ninja experiences. And he's been to the middle east more times than I'm sure I'm aware, and he's pulled a lot of triggers in situations most of us can't even imagine. So if he says the Creedmoor has some merit, I'll buy it.

BUT....

The Creedmoor's "liability" if you want to call it that is the rabid fanboy presence on the 'net that is comprised of guys who do the round no favors. A buddy of mine in a facebook reloading group tagged me in a conversation where a 6.5CM fan was trying to explain how the BC "Creedmoor bullets" was superior to the bullets used in the 260 Remington.

Um.....say what?

I think the round suffers from its fan base, not from its relative merits.

And I still think it's laughable that no one thought any other 264-bore worthy of elk until the CM and it's lower case capacity came along...lol. But, I'll take the change, whatever the impetus for it. I question the 120gr threshold for the bullets....if that's ok, then 257's are too. But...whatever. I get it. A line has to be drawn and it has to be somewhere.
 

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6.5 Creedmoor is nothing but a glorified 260 Remington. A lot of hype IMO. For elk in a 6.5 bore I would choose either a 264 Win. Mag. or better yet a 6.5/300 Weatherby Mag. Those two are for sure elk cartridges.
 
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