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E A BROWN sells the 6.5 Swede barrel off the shelf...However they also sale the 6.5 BR barrel off the shelf too.

Does anyone know as far as ballistics go which one is better..Are they about the same? Would be easier to get 6.5 Swede ammo and brass...6.5 BR brass, dies, etc etc etc could really end up costing you more?
 

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6.5 BR brass is 30-30 brass necked down. So I would not call it difficult to get. And it will also be cheaper. The only thing more expensive is the original purchase of the dies. And that is not that bad.

Both cartridges are great cartridges. I go for the 6.5 BRM for one reason. The brass headspaces on the rim. The 6.5X55 is not a rimmed cartridge. And IMO a rimmed cartridge has several advantages in a break open action rifle. So I believe the 6.5 BRM is a better choice. Both cartridges shoot very well. But when shooting a rimmed cartridge in a break action rifle you do not have the normal head spacing problems that most break actions have, and extraction is much easier, faster, and positive. The rimmed cartridge also alleviates the misfires that some people encounter on shoulder head spaced cartridges. Tom.
 

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HOGGHEAD said:
And IMO a rimmed cartridge has several advantages in a break open action rifle.
Hogg, can you elaborate on what some of the advantages are, and what you refer to as problems with headspacing?

I ask, because I have an Encore 30-06 barrel, and I am finding excessive expansion of the brass, to the point it is almost impossible to size it back down for use in my bolt action '06.
 

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John the major problem with the Encore is in the action. There is a gap between the back of the barrel and the face of the frame. The easiest way to see this is to take a feeler gauge and close the feeler gauge up in the action. Most Encore's have .002 to .004 gap. Just start at the .001 gauge and close the action, you will be able to pull the gauge out. Just keep going up .001 at a time until the gauge will not pull out. That will tell you how much gap your particular rifle has.

Now to the issue. When the firing pin strikes the primer it pushes the case forward(because their is nothing to hold the shell). This is one of the reasons for some shooters who get misfires. The primer is still struck, but when the shell is pushed forward there is not enough energy to set off the primer. That is why I like a rimmed cartridge. The rimmed cartridge can not be pushed forward. Therefore you get even-constant ignition. The fellow at EABCO explains this very well. As well as Mike Bellm on his web site.

Now your sizing problem is occurring when the shell is being pushed forward(because the 30-06 headspaces on the shoulder) to the shoulder, then it fires. the casing is then expanding to the size of the chamber, plus the size of the gap in your particular rifle. Just measure the length of your brass before it is fired(new brass), against the length of the brass after it is fired one time. You will see the difference.

It is not recommended to shoot brass from an Encore in a bolt action after you fired it in the Encore. You are working the brass too much. There is a better way to size your brass for the Encore. There is a great article on the Mike Bellm site giving step by step instructions. But for this conversation lets just say that it is a different way than how you size for a bolt.

It is not difficult. It is just different. Once you get the hang of it, it will come easy. But just to suffice to say that you can not effectively shoot the same brass from an Encore to a bolt-or any other rifle for that matter.

For most reloaders they just size their brass the same way they have for all their other rifles. And it will work that way. However it is not the way to get the best accuracy out of your rifle. When you size your brass properly for an Encore you will see an increase in accuracy(or at least we have). A lot of people are disappointed in the accuracy they achieve from their Encore. And IMO alot of that can be attributed to how they size their brass. Most relaoders who have accurate rifles only neck size their brass for ultimate accuracy. And unfortunately for the Encore it is not the best way to get the best accuracy.

Go to the Mike Bellm site and read his articles about sizing brass, and headspace in the Encore. You will be glad you did. Tom.
 

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HOGGHEAD said:
6.5 BR brass is 30-30 brass necked down. So I would not call it difficult to get.
Can the average Joe neck it down, or does it need to be done with a heating process, come from the factory, etc?
 
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