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Do any of you guys use a 410? i found one a couple weeks ago for a great price, it a mossberg m150b bolt action probly mid 50s due to the fact it does not have serial# iv cleaned it to show room condition and its verry nice, Now I bought rem #4 high brass exspress 3 inch and at 20 yards i got about 10 pellets on a beer can, 25 yards about 5, and at 30 it was un touched! ha im going to buy #6 high brass next time i should get 60 more pelets, do any of you have exspirence paterning a 410? its a very tight choke, what would you recomend? i dont want too light... i did get a nice large squirell yesterday from 25feet and it worked perfectly, does #6 penetrate better than #4? when i skin sqirels that i shoot with 4 or 5 most pelets are right under the skin and they roll out, wich i kid of like... basicly im just lookin for a bit more range, thanks
 

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4s will penetrate further then 6s they have more energy in each pellet but less pellets. If you want to shoot a 410 they are fun gun and I shot one for rabbits all the time out of a .410 contender I shot handloaded Nicole plated 6s. The 410s make it a little harder with less pellets but there really is not much of a difference in the velocity of each pellet and energy of each pellet compared to the larger gauges. The only difference is the amount of them going through the air. They are a great rabbit , squirrel, quail and grouse gun in my opinion. My nephew also took two spring gobblers two year in a row with a full choked one shooting hand loaded itx extreme turkey trauma shotshells.

The pattern you are getting seems a little on the open side if it is a right choke full barrel like you are saying. That sounds more like a modified but every gun patterns different.
 

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I envy guys that CAN shoot a 410 well.

over the years I have gone from the 12 to the 16,then to the 20 and now I use a 28 gauge for upland hunting.
I had picked up a Stevens 410 pump & used it for 2 seasons. I struggled with it,missing a lot more than hitting so it went to a new owner and I am back using the 28.
I love the 28.
 

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Yea i didnt buy it to be better than anything, I have an 870 wingmaster 12 i just want to use this for what it is, i had a 410 double barrle as a kid and shot clays with my dad and uncle, i didnt know anything different and i would break clays often for a kid, so it couldnt as bad as some make it. I got a squirel from 30ft easily and didnt move an inch. i wont take it out for pheasant its just a squirel rabbit gun. it would take a phesant in close quarters deffinitly withon 20yards, the number 4 buckshot from federal patterns relly tight at 15 yards
 

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Yea i didnt buy it to be better than anything, I have an 870 wingmaster 12 i just want to use this for what it is, i had a 410 double barrle as a kid and shot clays with my dad and uncle, i didnt know anything different and i would break clays often for a kid, so it couldnt as bad as some make it. I got a squirel from 30ft easily and didnt move an inch. i wont take it out for pheasant its just a squirel rabbit gun. it would take a phesant in close quarters deffinitly withon 20yards, the number 4 buckshot from federal patterns relly tight at 15 yards
 

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Have fun with your .410 , Arc. The first gun I ever used was a .410 handed down from my Grandpa. I really miss that gun. Mine was so old it only shot the 2 1/2 inch shells!
 

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I've owned a couple of 410s...an 1100 and a Citori.
Owned them long enough to rate their value to doves and skeet targets.
While any fragile bird like a woodcock will fall to them at a short distance, rabbits may be perfect and tough birds die with cracked skulls.....I never miss those 410s, especially reloading the little darlings.
For most gamebirds, 410s carry an ethical don't use label as the particulars of a shot seldom are controlled well enough for the narrow range of effectiveness of the 410....bad stuff happens easily to a 410's load afield., especially when overchoked.

4s will have a pretty small pellet count and high antimony 6s are likely a better tradeoff more often...in a good 410 shell.
Squirrels tho may be the exception for 4s in a 410, what with their tough hide.
If you want a good 410 shell look to Polywad's Gram Crak-Rs.
They come in 6s, I believe, and either chamber length.

410 is basically for fun but is not a toy.
It can kill, it can also wound.
All shells are that way but the 410 is a several steps ahead of the others in the latter.
Be judicious in it's use and avoid barbershop dreams of glory with it...any game deserves more respect.
 

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Iv determined its range at about 75 ft on game much of my squirels and rabbits are much closer i took a squirel no problem from 30 ft, i hunt squirels to case skin and tan the hide, same thing with rabbits but i like eating rabbits too, my 12 has bown rabbits in half this year making them a total loss. some consider the 410 a taxidermist gun and thats exactly why i like it.
 

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Our entire group of rabbit hunters use nothing but 410s. I use a stevens 311c SxS shooting high brass 6 shot. I have used nothing but a 410 for so long that I actually have trouble hitting rabbits with anything larger. I'm so use to being able to swing the gun faster and getting on the rabbit faster that I either shoot behind them with a 12 ga or can't even get the gun shouldered in time. I don't find that I wound rabbits with the 410 either. It seems that I either drop them where I shoot or miss completely. To me the 410 is the perfect gun for hunting rabbits in the brush and I am much more successful with them than any other ga shotgun.
 

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Yea rabbits are most always 5 ft infront of me when they take off and stop at like 12 ft away i wouldnt rather use anything eles in that situation. are you using winchester super x #6? i got some will try it tommarrow, how much do you pay i gace up 21$ and think that was rediculas.
 

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I will be reloading all my 410 from now on... All you need is a 3/8 socket set a screw driver and a hammer theb obviously powder ect. if you wabt me to explain my process I will just let me know, it would work for all shells... I could start a new thread with pictures.
 

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I'm not picky about shell type as it's hard enough and expensive enough to buy as it is. As long as it's #6 high brass I'm good. 21 bucks a box is salty but I don't think I pay much less than that, probably 16-17 bucks a box.
 

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If you're paying $21 for a box of lead 410s then you are shopping in the wrong bin....mid-teens is closer and bad enough.
 

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Yea! haha big buck sport shop in wexford if your firmiliar, they taxxxx. but everything eles was from walmart and was from 10-15 15 for express i think the winchesters super x have a HS hull for high strength so they can be reloaded many more times. they are nice looking shells but yea i wont be paying that much agian. I got some federal 410 handgub #4 buck for 14 at wallmart ... if you havnt tried it get some it patterns extreemly tight at 20 yards. I can wait to try some ecening coon calling with this load!
 

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And sorry for my grammar im typing on my small touch screen phone wich is a pita and if you want to edit your spelling it will get all messed up. lol
 

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i've carried a .410 o/u the last four years. shot everything with it that i ever did with anything else. shot my spring gobbler 2 years ago at 32 yards with it. i'am using a .410 contender this year and shot alot with it to check the pattern. shoots as well at 30 yards as my o/u with screw in chokes. grew up with a .410 bolt action. sure killed alot of squirrels with that gun.
 

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Shot a truck load of squirrels with a single shot 410 and #6 shot. Shell hulls were paper then.
 
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