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So, since I'm at work and our lovely web filter won't let me do any research... Got to thinking about buying a 35 whelen, but wasn't sure what manufacturers still chambered it. I'm to the point in my life that I want to start getting "fine" firearms. By that I mean I don't necessarily need to go out and buy a Savage or Stoeger, even though I like both. I don't plan on buying anything overly expensive, like a Browning, but I'd like to hear everyone's opinion if they have a 35.

Ideally, I'd be looking for a bolt action with wood stock, but I'm debating if I should be looking at a standard "hunting" barrel or something a bit heavier.
 

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I have a Model 70 in 35 Whelen. Here it is with a buck I killed in South Carolina last fall:



Here's a group it gave me yesterday at 200 yards (low left shot was from a different group):



That rifle began life as a Model 70 Classic DBM-S (Detachable Box Magazine-Synthetic). I had worked on the plastic stock it was in, but a plastic stock is a plastic stock, so I sold it off along with the trigger guard and detachable mags and put a standard internal magazine on it and put it in a McMillan stock. I also had it rebored by JES Reboring to 35 Whelen. So....it's "semi custom", but it didn't break the bank, really.

So far I killed that deer and a buck here in PA with the rifle, and it's a hammer. I'm shooting 250gr Speer HotCor's at 2530-2550fps using IMR4320. It makes big holes in things.

When I shoot steel plates at the rifle range (they have gongs out at 200 and 300 yards), there is an easily discernible difference in the hit when the Whelen's rounds get there as compared to my 270, 30-06, etc. It's just very....authoritative. Nothing against the 06 or 270. Love them both and have used both a lot. I am very, very fond of my Whelen, though.
 

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You can get a nice Remington 700 CDL chambered in the Whelen. Or you might like to take a look at the 100th anniversary of the 375H&H. It's around 400 bucks more than the Whelen so that might scratch that idea. lol. The Whelen is a great round, but in my opinion the 375 is one of the best all around med/big bore chamberings. It's always fun shopping...I mean researching a new gun.
 

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Ok, let's clear the air here for a minute. Just so everyone knows, I will NEVER own any rifle with "mag" in it. Sorry, not trying to be a snob, but I will never be going to hunt griz and there isn't anything in the lower 48 that needs a magnum cartridge, in my opinion.

TDD, what did you have into the rebore? That was something else on my radar, picking up(say) a cheap Savage in 06 and changing the barrel and dressing it up with a nice stock. Figured it was probably 6 one way half dozen the other price wise to buying a new gun.
 

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RobOz said:
You can get a nice Remington 700 CDL chambered in the Whelen.
A beautiful rifle. I always wanted one. There was one in a shop in Hughesville. I looked at it every time I went in there. I'm glad someone bought it before I got too weak to resist.
 

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I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen, not a bolt, but I'd put it up against any bolt action. It really packs a 250 gr Hornady SP in tight.
 

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Don't discount the idea of a rebore. The cost to have that done is $225. Think about that. I've seen M700's and M70's for comfortably under $500 if one is patient. All you need is one in 30-06 or 270, very common calibers, and have JES ream it to 35 Whelen. Getting one for $450 is no hard trick, add $225 and you're at $675, and you will have a cut-rifled barrel to boot. Mine shoots as I posted above....at or just under MOA at 200 yards.

That's no small job to accomplish. The longer you reach, the harder MOA is to attain. Putting 3 rounds like that group, inside 1.7", is good for ANY hunting rifle. Many claim medium bores can't do it. That rifle has shot under 2" before at 200 yards, so it's no fluke. And it is chucking a 250gr bullet in excess of 2500fps. There isn't much hunting in North America a rifle with that accuracy and potency can't do.

But don't write off reboring. Find a good 06 for a good price, have it made a Whelen, and you're in business.
 

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I too have a Remington 7600 in 35 whelan. Got it the first year offered in the 7600. Awesome gun. Shot sub MOA at 100 yards but that no big deal. Things don't run away when touched with the 250 grain animal it lets fly. Killed many dee and a few bear and not one ever took more than a few steps after being hit. I really like the round...
 

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I've been poking around since I got home, the CDL is discontinued. Can't find any other manufacturers that still chamber it. Looks like my options are find a used one, convert an old '06 or buy the junky H&R/Rossi single shots. The last one is out, so now I have some digging to do. I do have a real problem messing around with a mod70, don't ask me why. Leaning towards picking up a used Savage and rebarreling it and putting a nice Boyd's stock under it.

I'm thinking this should be a winter project.
 

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I have a Remington 700 Classic in .35 Whelen. It's accurate and I've taken 3 bears with it in Canada. The 225 gr Accubond at 2700 fps puts a bear down very nicely.
 

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Ok, let's clear the air here for a minute. Just so everyone knows, I will NEVER own any rifle with "mag" in it. Sorry, not trying to be a snob, but I will never be going to hunt griz and there isn't anything in the lower 48 that needs a magnum cartridge, in my opinion.
You should read some articles on ballistics and look up some bullet weight/velocity data for different cartridges before making claims like that. Magnum is a very generic term used to describe alot of diferent cartridges.

Remington made the 700 Classic in 35 Whelen years back, I see them all of the time on Gun Broker and in online classifieds. The Ruger 77's(tang models and the newer models)also seem to show up for sale often. Or if you go the rebore route any of the 06 family would work. There is a Remington 673 in .350 Rem. Mag. in the HPA classified's right now, at a very good price. Ballistically the 350 Rem Mag is the 35 Whelens twin.

Good luck, Tony
 

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Check Gunbroker.com. They frequently have Rem 700 Classics NIB on there. Yes, they were made in 1988 but they are out there. I have one that will shoot sub MOA with anything I put through it. I also have a Rem 7600, Ruger #1 and a TC Encore, all in 35 Whelen. A great caliber. I am headed to AK at the end of the month for a Caribou and Grizzly hunt and my Rem 700 Whelen will be with me. I agree, no need for a magnum. Good luck in your search.

FORBES rifles also makes a whelen. Real nice rifles from what I hear.
 

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If you can get past the feeling of not messing with an M70, consider that a pushfeed XTR-era M70 in 30-06 can be had VERY cheaply. I've seen 270's and 30-06's of such variety in pushfeed versions for less than 400 bucks.

Budget for a replacement composite stock and you're sitting pretty on a solid rifle, low start up cost, and a great shooting rifle.

Just a thought.
 

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I picked up a used Remington CDL in 35 Whelen at Gander Mountain a few years ago for $400. As far as I could tell, it was never shot or had a scope mounted on it. Probably one of the best deals I've ever got. Only complaint was it had the J lock but that was easily replaced with a new shroud. It shoots sub m.o.a. with RL15 powder and 225gr ballistic tips (now discontinued but I have a pretty good stash). I've only killed a boar with it in South Carolina. I carried it a few times deer hunting but was always afraid of scratching the stock. I recently picked up a synthetic stock for it so it may get used a little more. Keep looking around. Midway used to have A&B savage barrels in 35 whelen or you could always pick up an E.R. Shaw barrel.
 

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Love my .35! It is a Rem. 700. It has a BDL stock but was told that they didn't make it and must be a "classic" in a BDL setup? Came from that shop in Hughesville about 14 years ago. Shoot 225 gr game kings or ballistic tips with IMR 4064.
 

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They did make a 700 BDL 35 Whelen. I have one. It is actually going to be put up for sale as I have never used it since I purchased it used. Great gun, just bigger than what I need when compared to what I already have.
 

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Well, I've made the decision that I will own one. Trouble now is do I look for a 700 on Gunbroker, which they aren't cheap, or do I pick up a used Savage for the action and rebarrel. At this point I'm leaning toward the Savage. I've tossed out the idea of the Winchester as I looked at them at a few shops this weekend. Figures they only had junky ones, the Savage actions are 10 times as smooth as what I was looking at.

There was a nice 700 on GB, but for $800 I'd have to save up for some time before I could pick that up. I'm leaning towards finding an inexpensive Savage for the action, rebarreling with a Shaw barrel and putting a Boyd's stock on it in solid hard maple.

One thing I'm still up in the air about is what type of barrel to get. I doubt I'll ever need it, but was thinking of some type of heavier fluted barrel, maybe 24-26". Although the factory contoured barrel would probably be just fine for what I'm looking for. Anyone have any opinions about this?
 

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A few...


First, get it with a 1:12 twist. You can then shoot about any 358 bullet you wish. The Rem's are 1:16 and will do ok with 250's, but a 12 is considered superb for a Whelen. I had mine cut to a 12 twist.

The Whelen is no fire-breathing dragon, but it's got some stomp on both ends. Don't go ultra light or even "light" on this. Mine weighs a shade over 8.5lbs minus ammo, but otherwise ready to shoot. It has a Decelerator pad. It's not bad, but lighter would be not so fun. I shoot 58.0gr IMR4320, and have gone up to 60.0, with a 250gr bullet. It did NOT break my heart when best accuracy was at 58gr and not 60.


24" should be plenty to develop good velocities. I wouldn't go to 26 unless you really want to, and have open enough stands/hunting areas that the extra 2" of barrel won't bug you.

Get a scope with a generous eye relief. A stout charge from a Whelen will move you around a bit.


As for bullets, I shoot Speer HotCor 250's, getting sub MOA to 200. They perform really well on deer. 250 Partitions wouldn't be terrible, either, nor would 225PT's. Just depends on what you want to shoot, and what your preferences are.
 

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David Rearick said:
They did make a 700 BDL 35 Whelen. I have one. It is actually going to be put up for sale as I have never used it since I purchased it used. Great gun, just bigger than what I need when compared to what I already have.
What,s wrong with this one?
 

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Yeah, David and I are going to hook up. I guess the debate is over.
 
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