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What is a quality starting ammo for a guy that doesn't reload rifle yet?The reason I ask is because because I got a call from a friend asking my son and I to come to his house.When I got there in under 3 minutes he asked me some names and then mentioned some I knew.The names I knew were related to guns.Then he says I'll be right back and he comes out with a custom 22-250 and said here it's yours.I refused to accept the gun and he said no it's yours.I was blown away.I actually had tears in my eyes from such a special gift.I told him I was honored for such a gift.A litle while back I had asked his opinion on a varmint rifle.He said 22-250 so I figured when I have the money that's what I will buy.So when handed a double set trigger,stainless steel bull barrel gun my emotions got me.I would never have been able to buy a gun of this statue raising 3 kids.I'm working on his car in my shop right now and I think he has a deal coming his way as well.You know I gave away a pair of camos on here to a member and shipped tham UPS today.Think there is a correlation there?
 

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Might try some of Winchester's USA ammo? Fairly inexpensive, comes in 40 round boxes, in I think, 45gr HPs?
 

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Do you know the twist rate?? Most factory 22-250's are a 1in14 twist. Which is good for the faster and smaller bullets in 22 caliber. My custom 22-250 has a 1in8 twist for the 75 grain bullets.

If yours is a standard factory twist then a 50 or 55 grain bullet should shoot well.

Some of the best factory ammo going that has a decent price is the Hornady ammo. And it is loaded with the 50 or 55 grain V-Max bullet. Which is great for varmints. Black Hills also makes some decent ammo. Tom.
 

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I will surely test a few since I don't feel the accuracy is there yet.It only has 10 rounds down the barrel.I have not shot it yet as it needs a scope.He needed it for another rifle.He was getting 1/2 to 3/4 groups.
 

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Great gun!
I like 55 gr. in mine.
 

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I don't know the twist rate off hand but he will.The gun started as a 220 swift then was changed to a Donaldson 218 bee and he made it a 22-250.I'm still under a fog at this time with such a genorous gift so forgive me.2 weeks ago a guy gave me a 22 for my kid.He has dies and I'm sure he would be more than willing to teach me how to fine tune the firearm.I do however wish to buy a scope and fire a few factory ammo down the barrel.You can bet every case will be saved.I don't think the barrel is broken in after only 10 shots though.
 

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What is a quality starting ammo for a guy that doesn't reload rifle yet?The reason I ask is because because I got a call from a friend asking my son and I to come to his house.When I got there in under 3 minutes he asked me some names and then mentioned some I knew.The names I knew were related to guns.Then he says I'll be right back and he comes out with a custom 22-250 and said here it's yours.I refused to accept the gun and he said no it's yours.I was blown away.I actually had tears in my eyes from such a special gift.I told him I was honored for such a gift.A litle while back I had asked his opinion on a varmint rifle.He said 22-250 so I figured when I have the money that's what I will buy.So when handed a double set trigger,stainless steel bull barrel gun my emotions got me.I would never have been able to buy a gun of this statue raising 3 kids.I'm working on his car in my shop right now and I think he has a deal coming his way as well.You know I gave away a pair of camos on here to a member and shipped tham UPS today.Think there is a correlation there?

Well my Bible says "give and it shall be given unto you. Good measure pressed down, shaken together, and running over. So shall men give unto your bosom".
 

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a great day for you and one you will never forget! my luck has always been with 50 grainers any lighter you copper fouling. hornady 50 gr v-max and h 380!
 

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Do you know the twist rate?? Most factory 22-250's are a 1in14 twist. Which is good for the faster and smaller bullets in 22 caliber. My custom 22-250 has a 1in8 twist for the 75 grain bullets.
Is there any real advantage to that over a 243 shooting 87 grainers? Just asking as the 22-250 only really interests me with heavier bullets.
 

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The major difference is BC for long distance shooting. The BC of the 75 grain bullet in the 22 caliber is so much better than the BC of the lighter 243 bullets. In order to get good performance from a 243 you need to go to bullets at or over 100 grains in weight. And those are just too big for varmints.

So IMO yes. There is a very large advantage. I push a 75 grain A-Max from my 22-250 at 3350 fps. Past 300 yards this bullet outperforms a 243 bullet of equal weight being pushed faster at the muzzle. So I get better long range performance with less powder burnt, and lower recoil. I have found that a 75 grain V-Max is as large as I can shoot and still control recoil enough to be able to see impacts. Even with the 22-250 that is very hard to do. And impossible with the 243(IMO).

 

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Is your barrel longer than 26".

Is it an Ackley 22-250.

How does barrel life compare?

Would a 1 in 9 stabilize those bullets in a 22-250 (SAVAGE LRPV)?

I disagree with you on one thing. When shooting varmints, which for me means groundhogs, bullets larger than 100 grains are fun also. You may not be able to watch it in the scope, which should be hard with the 22-250, but you get really nice SPLAT factors.

I was thinking the 243 with 87 gr amax or 90 grain bergers ought to be a little better.

Sorry to the OP for the highjack.
 

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The barrel on my rifle is a 28" Krieger. I did not want to go with the AI. 3350 fps is just about right for decent barrel wear. You can get 3500 fps from an AI, but I just do not think that is necessary.

A 1in9 will stabilize the 75 also. But the 1in8 is slightly better(according to Krieger).

I also shoot ground hogs with my 45-70 and a 405 grain bullet. But that does not make it the proper choice?? A bullet of 100 grins or more for ground hogs is just not necessary. IMO it is a waste of extra money for more expensive bullets, and the extra powder. Not to mention the added recoil, for a high volume varminter.

Not really sure how you are watching a "splat" factor. When you can not see the impacts. But then that is a different discussion.

I spent alot of time investigating the best cartridge for a long range ground hog rifle. And there are alot of factors involved. Including as you mentioned-barrel life. I imagine I will get close to 1500 shots from this rig. And I am happy with that from a higher performance rig. It will take a few years before I can shoot that many ground hogs.

For my purpose I consider long range shooting as distances from 500 to 800 yards. Tom.
 

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The comment on 100 grains and splat facto was more of a joke than anything, although it wasn't really funny. I've shot alot with 165's from a 30-06. I've shot alot with a 25-06, 243 and a few with a 22-250, and really can't say that I've ever been able to see them hit. Now the 17 Remington that I have, I can.

It is funny to that your concerned with saving money on bullets when you had a custom rifle built. The cost savings is minimal wouldn't you think when you throw that in. Hornady Amax 75 gr .224 is $19/100, 105 .243 is $23/100 for a savings of $4/100. Over the estimated life of your barrel thats $60. The 243 uses about 3-4 more grains when comparing the 105 to the 22-250 with 75 grains if your looking at max loads of IMR 4064 according to the manual. Lets say you save a conservative 2 lbs of powder over the life of that barrel. Thats $50 at $25/lb. Total savings of $110 dollars.

Thanks for the info on the heavies from the 22-250. I think my next rig will be either a 6mm AI, a 260, or a 6mm BR. I like the idea of the 22-250, but not sure that its really what I'd want.
 

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Maybe I am just lucky...I have two 22250's. From 60 grain Partions down to 50 grain varmint rounds.. Be it factory or reloads they all shoot excellent.. Something too... No matter what powder you use from the charts..They all shoot from 1 inch groups down to 1/4 inch groups... Truly one of the best calibers offered to outdoorsperson...
 

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Must be my week so to speak.I just had a 6 by 24 scope installed.I won the scope from a ticket.Installed free.I was so happy I bought a box of Hornady 40 grain v max to test the firearm.My son and I are both pumped up to shoot the gun.I see re;oading in the near future.I have only done handgun loads but the man that was so gracious as to give this to me will give me any help needed.I will let you know how it works.
 
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