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This just posted on Facebook from Wyvernn:


2018 RAVINS!!!!
OK, got the go ahead to post this...we are updating our website and will have all the info up there shortly but this will get the conversation started!!

R10
New stock - 2 inches shorter – fits the eye and hand better. The finger reminder flanges are larger, come back further and are vented for a very cool look! The forearm underneath is slightly larger with a shallow groove down both sides to allow a much more comfortable place for the shooter’s support hand. this is a much more natural feeling and comfortable forearm.
New safety switch (it is beefier) The new safety is a lever that clicks audibly to ‘safe’ but is silent when going to ‘fire’. It is very easy to manipulate, answering some concerns/questions by Ravin users.
400 feet per second. Please note this! The new Ravin is 2” SHORTER but is rated at 10 fps FASTER!

R20
430 feet per second. The R20 (as well as the R10) will, like last year always shoot faster than the rated velocity.
New safety See notes above on the safety lever. This is a very nice improvement
Stock same length as old bows. the stock modifications mentioned above will carry over to the R20 but the overall length will not decrease like the R10 did.

R20 Sniper
Comes with a Vortex scope and a backplate with a dial that moves the stop and can be dialed to 200 yards. This is one sexy set up with a dial indicator that can be bottomed out at 20 yds then one full revolution of the wheel against the next stop will be 100 yds. The stop can be removed, and the wheel will dial in enough elevation to be sighted in at up to 200 yds! Not sure what Vortex scope will be used with this package but it’s an excellent choice considering the hype around that brand.

Both bows will be available in a gun metal grey finish or Predator camo for an upcharge

Lighted knocks will be available at ATA. They will be sold as a complete package, lighted knock and bolt. Replacement lighted knocks will be available but will only work with the bolts from the Lighted knock package, they won’t work with any other Ravin bolts. FINALLY! The most asked for accessory all year for Ravin. As noted, these come as ARROWS only, not as retrofit items for previously purchased arrows. I believe these are OEM from Clean-Shot so we will be familiar with the function. They DO NOT have a practice setting.
 

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This is why I posted it, I really can't believe that they would market archery equipment at 200 yards....that really puts the "arc" back in "Archery".
 

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I wonder what the drop in feet is at 200 yards?
couple inches!


Oh well I figure if used for the love of shooting and challenging one's self I think it's awesome. Lets all remember that crossbows can be shot just for the fun of it. I think many of us are to caught up in the idea that hunting is the reason people buy weapons. SHOOTING is a much higher driving force in business as far as sales go now a days and there are plenty of places you cannot discharge a firearm, so people who love to shoot just buy air guns and crossbows.
 

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couple inches!


Oh well I figure if used for the love of shooting and challenging one's self I think it's awesome. Lets all remember that crossbows can be shot just for the fun of it. I think many of us are to caught up in the idea that hunting is the reason people buy weapons. SHOOTING is a much higher driving force in business as far as sales go now a days and there are plenty of places you cannot discharge a firearm, so people who love to shoot just buy air guns and crossbows.
I doubt many people will shell out 2k for a crossbow just to target shoot with.
 

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430 fps crossbows have been around for more than 10 years. All that is different is how they market them now, which is unfortunate. It didn't change the game back then and it wont now.
 

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Disclamer:I'm not bashing crossbows and have nothing against their inclusion with today's decreasing amount of hunters.I had a chance to handle one of these ravine crossbows a couple weeks ago and I believe that these advancements most certainly are a game changer once the price drops and the technology becomes more main stream.These things are light,narrow,not loud and easy to cock.The heavy,unbalanced,loud cumbersome argument goes right out the window.Throw in 430 fps and you have a deer killing sob with very few if any disadvantages.The newer models seem even better.
 

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You would be the exception rather than the rule.There aren't many long range crossbow target bench rest competitions out there.
 

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You would be the exception rather than the rule.There aren't many long range crossbow target bench rest competitions out there.
times are changing.
Go to must gunshops or bow shops and ask how many sales are hunters VS just shooters. it's fast becoming shooting sports over hunting for new sales.
 

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I remember watchin a video Excalibur put out years ago showin them putting their limbs thru vigorous cycles thousands of times over a long period repeatedly.What if any did Ravin do in testing for consumer confidence in their product.
 

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200 yards I will really be able to reach out and get them this time of year!��

They were tough to get last year. On back order in many places.

I bought my first crossbow this past year. A sniper 370...250$ shoots fabulous out to 60 yards. The Ravin will need to come way down!
I also bought a new compound so not ready for full time crossbow.
 

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Oh well I figure if used for the love of shooting and challenging one's self I think it's awesome. Lets all remember that crossbows can be shot just for the fun of it. I think many of us are to caught up in the idea that hunting is the reason people buy weapons. SHOOTING is a much higher driving force in business as far as sales go now a days and there are plenty of places you cannot discharge a firearm, so people who love to shoot just buy air guns and crossbows.[/QUOTE]


This cross bow will fizzle out once it's selling audience peaks out. At the price point it is at, weather used for hunting or just for shooting, there is only a very small market share who can afford it then turn around and buy next years model, then the following years model. Resale of these xbows will be problematic since the warranty is only 5 years so who is going to want to but a used xbow with a possible expired or very short warranty ( predicated the warranty actually transfers to the new owner).
I don't for see this xbow being able to hold its market share beyond a couple years. Factor in the possibility of a few warranty issues that for sure will make it onto the world wide web here and it's future will be grim.
 

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I don't know about that.People pay huge money to buy anything that may give them an advantage.Loads of guys by brand new compounds every single year for over 1k,even when there's very little improvement.If it can shoot further or faster or hide your scent,money doesn't seem to be an object.
 
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