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20 Best States for whitetail hunting

18. Pennsylvania

Public Land: 9
Trophy Production: 6
Harvest Numbers: 9
Hunter Density: 1
Reputation: 8
TOTAL: 33

There's a lot of great things to say about Pennsylvania, including the insane number of deer harvested there each year (430,000). The state has about 4 million acres of public land and ranks in the top 20 for B&C trophy entries in the last decade. Only two states, Texas and Wisconsin, produce more deer kills than Pennsylvania annually. A solid deer population (1.2 million) and abundant licenses (800,000) make for an opportunity-rich deer hunting experience. Why doesn't Pennsylvania rank higher, you ask? It has the highest hunter density in the U.S. (20.5 hunters per sq. mile) and can be a nightmare come opening morning of deer season.
http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/20.../#ixzz2fTMMtiSb



Why doesn't Pennsylvania rank higher, you ask? It has the highest hunter density in the U.S. (20.5 hunters per sq. mile) and can be a nightmare come opening morning of deer season.
AMEN TO THAT!!!!


What could be done to make Pa better?
 

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We all wish it could be better but it could be worse. Yes, some parts of the state the hunters are suffering but overall I'm glad to hunt in PA.
Wow top 20 in B&C entries in the last decade. That's pretty good right there!
Overall, I think we have it good. Good hunting and good fishing. Good hunters a d good fisherman. And a Game Commission that at least tries to make things good. Sure they will never make us all happy but I will take what they do any day over what goes on in some states.
 

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facts?

do we really harvest 430,000 deer?

are there really 1.2 million deer here?

sounds like an opinion article, based on the authors "research."
 

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Probably half that amount of deer in Pa, there were 1.2 mil during the peak years. Population is down around 80% here compared to 15 years ago. Really 18th isn't that great when you think of it, figured the amount of B & C coming from Pa would rank us a little higher. Both AR and HR worked well.
 

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The #1 reason for such a "high" ranking for us is the posting of private parcels of land allowing bucks to age and genetics to play out. Couple that with AR and a much improved b/d ratio and you have the recipe for big bucks.
What it has really turned Pa into is a state of haves and have nots....
 

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In the grand scheme of things, 18 isnt great by any sense of the imagination. When states that arent even known for whitetail hunting(take idaho) and more for other big game beat you out, then theres not any reason to sing the praise.
 

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In the grand scheme of things, 18 isnt great by any sense of the imagination. When states that arent even known for whitetail hunting(take idaho) and more for other big game beat you out, then theres not any reason to sing the praise.
i don't put too much stock in that article. first off, it's full of errors. secondly, it's very subjective, more of an opinion peice than anything else. but i'll agree, 18th ain't nothing to brag about. heck, theres probably at least 10 states that don't even have whitetails.
 

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Actually yellodog there are 5 states that do not have whitetails. They are Alaska, Hawaii,Utah, Nevada & California. I have heared that whitetails have moved into the far Norteren parts of California, but could not find anything to substatiate that claim.
 

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IMO this state has gotten a lot better in trophy quality because of AR. I personally know of over 50 hunters who have harvested their best bucks to date within the last several years. I hunt mostly public land. I am seeing some great bucks and have also harvested my two best bucks the last two years. On public land! I really don't consider myself a trophy hunter but I have been allowing younger bucks to pass early in the season. Allowing me more time to hunt and harvest an older buck. I certainly have no problem with anyone hunting differently than me and believe all deer are trophies. Good huntin' however you legally hunt!
 

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8ptspike said:
Wow top 20 in B&C entries in the last decade. That's pretty good right there!
courtesy of private property

im sure the vast majority of record class deer do come off private land but not all.
The posting problem has only gotten worse as the racks get bigger...
personally ive never thought much of a big buck being killed by a guy who hunts posted property. Those types of chest beaters probably would quit hunting if they solely had to rely on state ground.
you really have to respect the hunter who consistently kills good deer on state ground because thats a true skill.


This state would definately produce trophy class deer if we limited the amount of people hunting but WHY would we want to limit people hunting?
for the sake of a rack?
 

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clearfield12 said:
Swift said:
8ptspike said:
Wow top 20 in B&C entries in the last decade. That's pretty good right there!
courtesy of private property



im sure the vast majority of record class deer do come off private land but not all.
The posting problem has only gotten worse as the racks get bigger...
personally ive never thought much of a big buck being killed by a guy who hunts posted property. Those types of chest beaters probably would quit hunting if they solely had to rely on state ground.
you really have to respect the hunter who consistently kills good deer on state ground because thats a true skill.


This state would definately produce trophy class deer if we limited the amount of people hunting but WHY would we want to limit people hunting?
for the sake of a rack?
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Best answer I have ever read on here, posted land and feed make large racks also. Which of these states farm feed deer?
 

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20 Best States for whitetail hunting

18. Pennsylvania

Public Land: 9
Trophy Production: 6
Harvest Numbers: 9
Hunter Density: 1
Reputation: 8
TOTAL: 33

There's a lot of great things to say about Pennsylvania, including the insane number of deer harvested there each year (430,000). The state has about 4 million acres of public land and ranks in the top 20 for B&C trophy entries in the last decade. Only two states, Texas and Wisconsin, produce more deer kills than Pennsylvania annually. A solid deer population (1.2 million) and abundant licenses (800,000) make for an opportunity-rich deer hunting experience. Why doesn't Pennsylvania rank higher, you ask? It has the highest hunter density in the U.S. (20.5 hunters per sq. mile) and can be a nightmare come opening morning of deer season.
http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/20.../#ixzz2fTMMtiSb



Why doesn't Pennsylvania rank higher, you ask? It has the highest hunter density in the U.S. (20.5 hunters per sq. mile) and can be a nightmare come opening morning of deer season.
AMEN TO THAT!!!!


What could be done to make Pa better?
For the past 5 years after the first day I see little to no gun hunters in my area. Seen guys post on here they do not see a hunter all day. that's a terrible write up. The only thing that will ever make hunting in this state better is to drop AR and make hunting a family fun sport not the greed horn hassle it is at the present.
 

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This state would definately produce trophy class deer if we limited the amount of people hunting but WHY would we want to limit people hunting?
for the sake of a rack?
we don't always agree, but this is something i also feel strongly about. i like big bucks, but the opportunity for everyone to hunt every year trumps everything else as far as i'm concerned.
 

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yellodog said:
clearfield12 said:
This state would definately produce trophy class deer if we limited the amount of people hunting but WHY would we want to limit people hunting?
for the sake of a rack?
we don't always agree, but this is something i also feel strongly about. i like big bucks, but the opportunity for everyone to hunt every year trumps everything else as far as i'm concerned.
I think every guy who hunts ultimately likes big racks but in the end the social aspect and camaraderie win out for me. Id much rather see other guys get a legal buck then me get a big one
 

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i like the chase. the big racks are just a byproduct of that. i don't know or care why anyone else hunts, but i know that folks hunt for a variety of reasons. limiting anyones opportunities to cater to any groups particular ideas would be foolish.
 

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facts?

do we really harvest 430,000 deer?

are there really 1.2 million deer here?
sounds like an opinion article, based on the authors
"research."
That's the problem I have, I don't buy those numbers.
 

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I agree especially hunting over standing and cut corn and beans on Private Property......RESIDUE if You know what I mean , a lot easier than hunting in the Woods
 

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We'd be in the top ten pretty quick if folks would let the bucks mature a little.

Oh but wait... this is PA, we each gotta shoot a buck every year so that we can throw the rack in a bucket along with the rest and never look at it again.
 

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We'd be in the top ten pretty quick if folks would let the bucks mature a little.

Oh but wait... this is PA, we each gotta shoot a buck every year so that we can throw the rack in a bucket along with the rest and never look at it again.
easily said by those who hunt posted private ground....
 
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