I know im posting this a little late but I shot this buck 12/7/09 at 3 p.m. He's a main frame 8 with split G2's. The best part about it is my buddy had trail cam pics of him in velvet and out of velvet about a mile away from my house and he was never seen again. Until, november and my sister and my mom pulled in the drive way on two different occasions and said they seen a buck, and I asked how big and they said big. Now since they're not hunters a thought big ment small. I was wrong because after I shot it my sister came out and said "yep, thats the buck" and walked back into the house next time I going to believe them when they say big buck.